<p>i think it more or less works out that the percentage of people living on campus decreases by about 25% each year (100% of freshman, 75% of sophomores, 50% of juniors, and 75% or seniors), that works out to about 62% of the total class; my guess would be that if the official total number is small than that, the most likely a few more juniors move off campus than in the estimate.</p>
<p>so im thinkin ware as of now. anyone know if there is a higher chance of getting it if i send in my housing application now???</p>
<p>nope no difference if you send now.</p>
<p>all apps are run through the system simultaneously.</p>
<p>You've got plenty of time to worry about housing. Consider visiting again, staying with a student, or coming for Penn Previews to get a feel for the houses (they do housing tours at that time).</p>
<p>Freshmen have nothing to worry about - housing is guaranteed. That said, housing in the Quad is <em>not</em> guaranteed - in fact I've heard that only 1000 - 1200 freshmen live in the Quad. 500 or so live in Hill, and the rest are spread all about.</p>
<p>As far as recommendations, don't live in the highrises as a freshman. You'll regret it. The Quad houses (riepe, ware, fisher) are good choices, and Hill is a good choice - they're the houses with the best percentage of freshmen. DuBois, Gregory, Stouffer, KC, English, Mayer - those houses have more of a blend of frosh to seniors, and some people really enjoy that experience. The high rises are incredibly anti-social.</p>
<p>Sophomores sometimes have trouble finding housing. Most sophomores want to live in the highrises, but they fill up fast, and some must look off-campus. By junior and senior year, most folks have a stable plan for where they'll live.</p>
<p>Really, they should keep upperclassmen out of the quad, and keep freshmen out of the high rises. Most people aren't ready to move off campus as sophomores, but by junior and senior year they may be.</p>
<p>If you're within reasonable distance, another trip to Penn to check out housing is probably worth it. The videos, brochures, and websites really don't do it justice. On the whole, Penn's on-campus housing is pretty crappy, and those materials make it look (deceptively) attractive. Visit campus, and you can get the honest picture.</p>
<p>Eh matt, I do wanna visit Penn and see for myself how dorms are, but the extent of my housing concerns are just to live in a dorm where it's not boring to be there; "crappy" or not doesn't really matter to me :P</p>
<p>wait, where is king's court?</p>
<p>Maps</a> & Buildings @ Penn</p>
<p>more specifically,</p>
<p>Maps</a> & Buildings @ Penn</p>
<p>Hill isn't as bad as people say it is. I mean, I live in the Quad and I love it, but everyone I know in Hill loves it there as well. I guess it's because the two have different perks. The Quad has picturesque architecture, proximity to most classes and central buildings on campus, and social events (econ scream, spring fling, etc). But Hill has a dining hall in the basement (with better food than 1920 Commons, the main dining hall that people in the Quad generally use), lounges, and is significantly closer to the engineering buildings. And they're both almost entirely freshmen.</p>
<p>Kings Court and Stouffer both have great community feels. Kings Court has a good dining hall, and Stouffer residents are guaranteed housing in Stouffer or Mayer (good apartments, I'd love to live there next year) sophomore year. People often stay in Stouffer/Mayer for more than 1 year because of the strong sense of community.</p>
<p>Gregory has huge rooms but no air conditioning and it's one of the farthest college houses from campus.</p>
<p>DuBois I know nothing about, sorry.</p>
<p>I know people who like living in the high rises as freshmen because it's much more quiet than the Quad/Hill, so it's easier to study. I also know freshmen who lived there because they wanted guaranteed housing sophomore year and they're outgoing enough to have tons of friends who live all around campus. And, finally, I know someone who left a high rise this semester because it was too unfriendly and non-freshman-experience-y.</p>
<p>Also, look into residential programs.</p>
<p>^^ this was very helpful, thanks! personal opinions on houses would be greatly appreciated... i dont trust brochures :-)</p>
<p>i think we should set up a cc dorm visit program for previews week, since the previews tours don't get to see rooms in quad (or get into quad at all during fling), kc / eh, dubois, and gregory... and some tours go to highrise / hill rooms, and some don't.</p>
<p>gah! the last time we tried to host someone from CC it was a disaster.</p>
<p>oh what happened?</p>
<p>and i don't mean overnight host, i mean just quick peeking</p>
<p>After doing some research, I think I'm going to go for Hill as my first choice, with Gregory as a backup. I like how Hill is largely student-run, and Gregory seems to have a pretty diverse community of students.</p>
<p>Well you have until May 1 to decide. No need to rush.</p>
<p>yea what happened? how could it've been any different from a regular overnight?</p>
<p>if you're not african-american, i don't know how much you'll like dubois.</p>
<p>anyway, as an alternative to quad, freshmen should also look into stouffer college house. it's right next to quad, has plenty of single rooms, huge double rooms, and a community feel to it.</p>
<p>^^^ Good thing I am African-American. Would DuBois be the best fit then?</p>
<p>Quad is the social hub, but I prefer the highrises. Nicer facilities, closer to the dining hall, and quieter. I've heard that studying in the Quad can be difficult.</p>
<p>Chi-town: I'm a black student in the class if 2011 living in DuBois. The house was created following the Civil Rights movement, in 1972, as a residential support system for black students on campus. Although now the percentage of black students has decreased significantly, with about 40% of the house being African-American, it still continues to be the center of black social life on campus. Basically, black students that choose not to live in DuBois usually end up spending time there anyway, because it still easily represents the largest grouping of black students anywhere on campus. The community at DuBois is very supportive, and the house hosts events by black student groups from time to time. The only major complaints are the quality of the rooms themselves, which in my experience are not any worse than the high rises, but that depends largely on whether they are being compared to renovated floors in the high rises or not. Feel free to message me if you have any more questions.</p>