<p>My daughter may apply to W&M but one guide book says half of sophomore housing is horrible apartments far away from campus. Does anyone know where they are and how the students get back and forth?</p>
<p>They are probably talking about Ludwell. They are not that far away, especially from New Campus and the Business school. If you have a bike, you can get anywhere on campus in 5 minutes. I lived there sophomore year and thought it was great. It is actually very difficult for sophomores to get double and quad apartments there because seniors take them. The triple apartments have only one bedroom, but overall they have more space-per-person than anywhere else on campus.</p>
<p>The Ludwell apartment complex is fairly close-in, about, what, 100 yards away from Miller Hall (the business school), and as noted, is almost entirely populated by seniors - it’s very much in demand, and there are probably almost no ‘sophomores’ there, much less “half.” As to them being horrible, probably the only thing ‘horrible’ about them is the students, and their innate lack of cleaning standards :)</p>
<p>There <em>is</em> (or was?) an apartment complex owned by the school whose name escapes me now that might fit the description, but it’s empty and has been mothballed for years. </p>
<p>The Green line campus loop bus route includes Ludwell, but most students just walk (or bike) to class: <a href=“HR Management System”>HR Management System;
<p>[Ludwell</a> Apartments to Earl Gregg Swem Library - Google Maps](<a href=“http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Ludwell+Apartments,+Rolfe+Road,+Williamsburg,+VA&daddr=Swem+Library+,+Williamsburg,+VA&hl=en&geocode=FYeaOAIdbltt-yGLGeRmRWH_PSnH1-N2m4mwiTEWR8tXcG8eSw%3BFeawOAId7mZt-yHsPYtewzR8gw&mra=ls&dirflg=w&sll=37.26981,-76.712068&sspn=0.005439,0.012907&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16]Ludwell”>http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Ludwell+Apartments,+Rolfe+Road,+Williamsburg,+VA&daddr=Swem+Library+,+Williamsburg,+VA&hl=en&geocode=FYeaOAIdbltt-yGLGeRmRWH_PSnH1-N2m4mwiTEWR8tXcG8eSw%3BFeawOAId7mZt-yHsPYtewzR8gw&mra=ls&dirflg=w&sll=37.26981,-76.712068&sspn=0.005439,0.012907&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16)</p>
<p>nyc… how hold is the guidebook you are looking at?</p>
<p>Bad sophomore housing lottery numbers used to put you in the Dilliard Complex, which is off campus by the soccer and baseball facilities. It is located off Ironbound Road, you can use Squiddy’s google map link and put in “Plumeri Park, Williamsburg, VA” to see where it is. However, that housing is no longer in use. I think the last year was my sophomore year in 05-06. I don’t remember this place having apartment style dorms though.</p>
<p>Sophomores usually live in Landrum, Jefferson, Chandler, and Bryan Complex (overcrowds and basements), I think. Maybe some live in Old Dominion also now that Jamestown is open? All of these buildings are right in the middle of campus.</p>
<p>the Ludwell apartments are pretty popular… I lived there jr and sr year. 15 minute walk to Wren, 5 minutes to the new Business school and Morton. Not many sophs live in Ludwell, but they can probably get a triple if they get a really good number. Seniors and Juniors generally live in Ludwell, Randolph Complex, Jamestown, Old Dominion, and upstairs in Bryan Complex (the last two might well be open to sophs with good lottery numbers).</p>
<p>Sophomore housing seems fine to me. I’m a freshman, but I live in Jefferson basement (the only freshman hall in Jefferson), and it seems like a decent building to me. As do Landrum and Chandler which are very close by (I’ve been through them a few times.)</p>
<p>Never been inside Bryan Complex or Old Dominion, but I’m sure they’re perfectly adequate too.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t worry too much about it, honestly.</p>
<p>like soccerguy, I suspect your guide book is referring to the Dillard complex which is several miles from campus but is no longer used for housing. And as already posted, the Ludwell apartments are pretty nice and they were all recently rennovated (all have airconditioning, dishwashers, etc).</p>
<p>My D is a senior happily living in Jamestown for a second year, but I would share that the one thing we were disappointed in was that she was “bumped” in the lottery for sophomore housing so she had to consider off campus housing. Fortunately things worked out since her roommate had a very good lottery number so they wound up in Chandler. But some others of her friends were also bumped. One pair rented off campus, and they liked it so much they’ve been in the same off campus apartment ever since. A couple of others got on the waiting list and eventually got housing, although with roommates they didn’t know (this seemed to work out better for the guys than for the girls). Most of them lived in language housing.</p>
<p>D (and we) love everything else about W&M, but just were surprised when this happened, so be prepared.</p>
<p>yea… when I was there, they definitely did “bump” people out of the housing lottery who had low numbers, but every year they also got everyone who still wanted to be on campus in August a spot (some of the people who get bumped get off campus housing and do not want to stay on the wait list).</p>
<p>Sometimes people can play with their numbers, for example if there were 2 pairs of friends who knew each other, and one pair had good numbers, and one pair had bad numbers, they would mix/match their pairs so they were one good and one bad. Then they can switch at a later point, or just keep their new roommates.</p>
<p>The process is explained on the website: [William</a> & Mary - Wait List & Opt Out](<a href=“http://www.wm.edu/offices/residencelife/rsp/undergraduate/waitlist/index.php]William”>http://www.wm.edu/offices/residencelife/rsp/undergraduate/waitlist/index.php)</p>
<p>looks like they might’ve changed the terminology from “bumped” to “wait list”</p>
<p>W&M can only guarantee housing 3 out of 4 years (freshman year, senior year, and one year in the middle) as there are not enough beds to guarantee housing all four years. Thus some students who enter the lottery might be placed on a waistlist for housing.</p>
<p>Generally, those who wish housing are eventually accommodated but it’s not guaranteed that they will be. It simply depends on supply and demand. W&M will be adding a new housing option next year called Tribe Square. It will house only around 55 students but it will add a few more campus housing spaces.</p>