<p>That girl lost her book contracts (worth hundreds of thousands), and will never, ever be published by a legitament publisher. Her peers won't value her work, because they'll never know if it was really her's. And anyone who comes into contact with her professionally or otherwise and knows about what happend, will also look on her with distrust. She lost a great deal. </p>
<p>A person's reputation can carry them far or leave them in the dirt. </p>
<p>And I find it very strange that a bunch of people who appear to pride themselves so much on their high GPAs and SATs, are admitted cheaters. How can anyone be proud of something they stole?</p>
<p>If we're talking about that Kaavya girl, I bet she showers with $100 bills, so I don't think she really cares.</p>
<p>And it's hilarious to see all the CCers up in their ivory towers. A cheater? Let's burn him/her at th stake! No one ever makes mistakes! This dude got caught, BFD. Just tell his parents and make daddy give him a whooping when he gets home. Oh wait, that's wrong.</p>
<p>I totally agree with post #20. No one's perfect and we all cheat more or less. Blatant and frequent cheating is wrong but none of us know the circumstances of that guy to be so cruel as to say that you hope his future will be destroyed.</p>
<p>I think those who insist that EVERYONE cheats are just trying to justify what cannot be justified. I have never cheated. I don't believe I'm the only one who can say that. I think there are many, many people who can say that.</p>
<p>I am disgusted by those who say that "everyone cheats," especially since it comes across as a justification of their own behavior. <em>Some</em> people cheat, and <em>some</em> people get away with it, but that doesn't mean that everyone is dishonest. Anyone who supports cheating is probably cheating himself.</p>
<p>If the school reports the student's cheating, he is done for at all top schools. Colleges take academic honesty very seriously, even if there is not an official honor code. In college, you can get expelled for cheating. One instance - and you're gone.</p>
<p>Ok...and I am disgusted with people like Momwaitingfornew who say "anyone who supports cheating is probably cheating himself."</p>
<p>If you can cheat to get As and get away with it, heck I'd say go for it. I don't see how someone could be cheating himself if he did not get caught and ended up getting a 1600 on the SAT. I really don't. Care to explain for me.</p>
<p><em>This isn't coming from someone who cheats btw. I'm just annoyed with people who want to burn occasional cheaters at the stake.</em></p>
<p>I don't want to "burn anyone at the stake." I teach at a respected university, and I know how intolerant universities are of such behavior.</p>
<p>If you support cheaters, then you support their actions. Why? </p>
<p>I'm not saying this kid should go to community college as some other posters have said, but his prospects depend highly on what the school does with this information. Will he get into a top 20-30 university if his school reports it? No way.</p>
<p>I agree with what Momwitingfornew.
Anyone who supports cheaters hurts our system based on honesty and integrity. He/she should not be admitted to a top college because then some honest kid is rejected.
My dad taught in a college and he said he was the saddest when he saw a student cheating. I think it is just not right to cheat in one's schoolwork. Period. There should be no justification. I spent a couple of h.s. years in an Asian country. It was unbelievable, kids cheated a lot there. Totally disgusting!</p>
<p>I dont mean that everyone cheats in a major way, but we have all cut corners such as copying homework, collaborating on homework, etc. Cheating on tests is way more serious because they're supposed to be individual assessments, but still we shouldn't be so mean. He's surely already feeling more horrible than he's ever felt before.</p>
<p>I'm not making excuses, I support egalitarian ideals and despise the unfair practices of the bourgeoisie; I don't condone cheaters and there is no rational reason for such behavior. But what do people expect? People cite examples of cheaters not being worthy of a top schools. With the enormous competition and pressure placed on such applicants, what do people expect to be the byproduct? I don't mean to make generalizations, but I bet the majority of those applicants "cut corners." I'm guessing people don't do it all the time or they'd get caught. </p>
<p>I guess the question here is does someone who made one mistake (assuming dude isn't constant cheater-well, they get caught anyways) not deserve a top college when he has worked hard his whole life? To me, that seems harsh (yes, I am making assumption/hypotheticals here). (And as an important tangent, it seems ridiculously hypocritical to accept people for ONLY their mediocre athletic skills or family connections, yet in the name of "educational integrity" we kick out "cheaters"). That's why I don't get the whole "let's burn cheaters," and no one *****es about anybody else. And we are not talking about plagiarizing a paper or research, etc.</p>
<p>But when somebody says "DIE CHEATERS DIE, DIE IN A HORRIBLE HELL FIRE," that's ridiculous. </p>
<p>Does anyone really believe this: “Anyone who supports cheaters hurts our system based on honesty and integrity.” A system on honesty and integrity?!? I don’t mean to be overly cynical but get real.</p>
<p>I guess I'm not questioning the wrong/rightness of cheating, but to the extent it is/should be wrong, know what I'm saying?</p>
<p>*<strong><em>And by no means do I condone cheating, but come on, why complain about this bs when there is so much worse/unfair stuff in the wide world of academia</em></strong>.</p>
<p>but we have all cut corners such as copying homework, collaborating on homework, etc.</p>
<p>Ughh, why is collaboration on homework on bad thing? Working in groups to solve difficult problems will lead to much better understanding of the material!</p>
<p>I mean when you just split up the problems amongst people so everyone only does a portion of the assignment. Later, you combine all the answers.</p>
<p>Guess what? Same thing happened to our 'senior valedictorian'. They always get caught. Who's the valedictorian now? You guessed it..</p>
<p>And to those who are generalizing their cheating habits to everyone else: stop it. I don't like to be lumped in a group of which I have done nothing to deserve the placement. Guess what? Some people don't cheat! I know, it's crazy. Call me a liar, a guy who has a reaction formation complex, whatever. Just because you cheat and all your friends cheat, does NOT mean everyone cheats.</p>
<p>Whether you believe that almost everyone cheats or that only very few people cheat just has to do with how you define cheating. Some posters have been upset with claims from others that "everyone cheats" but it may be that they define cheating more generally, such as getting help on an individual assignment, etc.</p>
<p>haha that kaavya chick was from my hs. funny thing is, the teacher that PROOFREAD her garbage was the lit teacher that said i had an 'inability to write'. i go to a school that newsweek (i think, might have been us news, anyway) couldnt put in the top 100 hs in america because kids here do so well the school as a whole is an outlier. instead we're a 'public elite' and were grouped in some "no-particular-order-top-20' nonsense. yea, cheating is prominant here no doubt, but talking to college students, at these super-competitive colleges, they said ppl will take out all the mcat and lsat books so that no one else can study them. ppl will also go through library books and destroy pages in books that contain valuble research so that no one else can get the right answer. i blame it on the pressure. i forgot where i read the article about chinese students getting tiny radio recievers stuck in the ears while trying to receive answers to tests. no wonder china looks smarter than us; theyve just found better ways to cheat LOL</p>