<p>An aside regarding “this generation” and their obliviousness to race: Who would have guessed 15 years ago that a Korean pop star (Psy) would be an international sensation, bringing down the house in America while singing in Korean? I think it’s a reflection on “kids these days” being more accepting of all races.</p>
<p>(His current controversy is another matter and it’s probably best to not get into it here.)</p>
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<p>No, I did take all kids into account. Black, yellow, white, brown, green, purple…all of them. This is our personal experience at our schools; the kids here don’t give a hoot.</p>
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<p>However, it is possible that the bigger unspoken issue is that if a college becomes clearly majority non-white, it becomes less attractive to a subset of white students and (probably more so) parents and wealthy donors who see being a member of the majority group the expected natural order of things. This type of thing is hinted at by the nastiness of politics regarding immigration in recent years. Perhaps somewhat related is the lack of interest in HBUs by non-black students.</p>
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<p>To me this can also mean that they know nothing about, maybe don’t give a hoot about, the experience of people of different races, racism in society beyond their own “niceness” or “color blindness”.</p>
<p>To me this puts it best:</p>
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<p>[Don’t</a> Tell Me You “Don’t See Race” | Beyond Bryn Mawr](<a href=“http://beyondbrynmawr.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2010/09/18/dont-tell-me-you-dont-see-race/]Don’t”>Don’t Tell Me You “Don’t See Race” | Beyond Bryn Mawr)</p>
<p>In any event, I want a racially, ethnically, religiously, socioeconomically diverse campus for my kids. I do not think I am alone there.</p>
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<p>That may be true but it wasn’t what I was addressing.</p>
<p>However, closely related to what i was addressing is this: how popular are HBUs with black students? How much do those students want to be on a campus with very little racial diversity?</p>
<p>I assumed my liberal atttude extended to all others, too- until a regional diversity conference. A Black educator from a New england prep made the comment that until you walk into a similar SES, similarly educated group- and realize you are the only person of your color, you don’t realize what the experience is. </p>
<p>I also assumed most educated adults were somewhat color-blind, until all the fuss on CC about URMs and then Asians (incl occasionally refrerring to them as boring math drudges. -?) </p>
<p>I’d think all the comments that Asians are drudges- even if one is purporting to just repeat others’ stupocracy- still smarts. As does the certainty the other URMs are sub par for top colleges.</p>
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<p>Apparently, there is enough demand that the ones that exist now remain open.</p>
<p>It is also not necessarily true that students at non-diverse campuses prefer it that way, although they may find non-diversity merely acceptable. Indeed, it appears that most students and parents find a non-diverse campus of their own racial or ethnic majority more acceptable than one of a different racial or ethnic majority.</p>
<p>Also, it is possible that those who grew up as members of minority groups in their areas may have a different idea of the minimum acceptable representation of their own group at college than those who grew up as members of the majority group in their area.</p>
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<p>There was an article like this in Time or Newsweek (always get those mixed up.) They claimed that URM kids today don’t feel the significance of race or feel that it is a “big deal,” much to the consternation of their Baby Boomer grandparents.</p>
<p>What is SES?</p>
<p>I would guess that it means socioeconomic status.</p>
<p>I am not certain it is up to Whites to determine on behalf of others, not sure it’s enough to say, well, I’m color blind, my kid is and his friends. Each person who is a minorty, under whatever circumstances, whatever situation, may see it through his own lens, in various ways, at various times.</p>
<p>SES= socio economic status.</p>
<p>Also, I don’t think that “kids these days” do not believe race matters, especially not african americans. When you are so excited over the election of the first president of color, I really do not believe YOU believe it does not matter. What is better is that so many were also excited.</p>
<p>It’s as silly as saying sexism no longer exists. It does. Even if not in college admissions, anymore. But, some few women will insist that sexism is “over,” in spite of the fact that women are still paid less than men for doing the exact same job.</p>
<p>In the end, I think we are several generations away from race blindness in the country, if not more.</p>
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<p>You are not alone, of course. But a look at where people of means choose to live suggests that they define “good schools” at the pre-college level more in terms of test scores rather than racial or socioeconomic diversity. My town votes Democratic in presidential elections. It also has a policy of keeping poor and middle class people out by buying up land coveted by developers for apartment buildings.</p>
<p>Yes, I for one care more that my kids attend a diverse college than I am a diverse high school.</p>
<p>We live in a town with one high school (and one elementary and one middle, in fact…small town). A different school is not an option unless we pay for or get FA to a private school…and diversity is not improved by doing that. Short of moving, this is what we have.</p>
<p>I think college is the first time that many students get to make a choice about school. I don’t know how many kids consider racial diversity explicitly, however, or how much that goes into a schools overall reputation.</p>
<p>I know** I** considered it when S was looking.</p>
<p>I think it’s fair to say that concerns and consciousness about race are less among today’s youth than they were when I was a youth. That doesn’t mean they’re non-existent, but I do think we should give credit where it’s due to the kids of today. I will add that this continues to be easier for a white person to say than a non-white person.</p>
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<p>I would say that a lot of other minorities (Asian, Hispanic, etc.) were also excited about Obama precisely because he broke so many racial barriers.</p>
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<p>Or that the other party turned to social conservatism that appeared to be hostile to them (e.g. anti-immigrant rhetoric, opposition to comprehensive immigration reform that was promoted by the same party’s last president).</p>
<p>Given that there are 4 billion asians on the planet (verses 13M Jews) I find it incredible that people would think that an college campus with the same percentage of Asians as Jews would some how be lacking in diversity. How much are Yoko Ono and Kim Ung-Yong the same person?</p>
<p>A resolution to this conflict would be to add a check box to the Comm App where people opted into to allowing their children to be subject to racial quota discrimination. That way OHMomof2 could be happy that the system that she approves of sent her offspring to Columbus and no one else would be inconvenienced.</p>