<p>Hmm, that'd be pretty tough. That's like 700-some people.</p>
<p>no dude. thats not tough, thats like about the size of my high school class. i dont know everybody personally as a friend, but i definitly know who most of them are.</p>
<p>I'd rather Rice was recognized more for the quality school it is, than have the advantage of knowing almost everyone.</p>
<p>recognition is all about bragging. people know that rice is very good and respect it. unless u care about bragging...</p>
<p>recognition is also about getting hired later on, getting grants from the NIH, getting other research $$, attracting better profs, better student body, and a whole bunch of other things...ppl know that rice is very good, ppl should know that rice is excellent.</p>
<p>Yes, and one problem is that this recognition is mainly confined to the US. Which is not a problem if you're American, but I would definitely be better off if people thought of Rice, Harvard and Oxford in the same brainwave. :)</p>
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<p>That would, then, be a serious mistake; for Oxford, Harvard, and Rice are very different schools.</p>
<p>harvard and oxford are much older, much of that fame is time. and i thought Rice was supposed to model oxford? lets not compare schools, each school has their good things. i will say that oxford is freaking expensive for out of the country. Dude, rice has enough prestige to get all the great things u listed, i dont know what makes you think u wont get them</p>
<p>Easy enough, the fact that very few people outside of Texas know a lot about Rice. For example, I can count on my fingers the number of people from the midwest who know that Rice has a business school, a grad school, and an outstanding undergrad. Rice has had recent fame as the winner of NCAA Baseball Championship. It's sad that a college's rise to fame has to come from sports instead of academics, which is the more important place it should be known in. </p>
<p>Now, if you're a uber chemistry nerd, live in Texas, do lots of research on future schools (like me :) ), or are well-attuned somehow you'll know of Rice. Most folks though do not know Rice as well as they know, say, Harvard, Stanford, or even University of Michigan. Stanford has only been around for 20 years longer than Rice. So your argument that 'fame comes with time' is incorrect. I can guarantee there are more people who know of Stanford than those who know of Rice. </p>
<p>You're right, each school has their own good things, but it is up to each school to proactively sell their merits to prospective students, professors, and NIH grant committees. Rice needs to be better known for many reasons and benefits. If Rice was as well known as Stanford and others, it could attract better professors (which would help students like you), better students (stronger students who would challenge and motivate you), and more funding (more money to help students like you!). I'm telling you this not to disparage or put down Rice in any way. I really feel the school could do a better job of marketing itself -- and it has begun to do so. This campaign to increase the number of students is a great idea, as I have reiterated before. Besides, dude, 30 percent more students is maybe overall 1000 more students. You're saying that you can get to know 2933 students but not 3933? 1000 students more automatically makes Rice a big, cutthroat, 'you're just a number' school? </p>
<p>I doubt it. What I can say definitely on this matter is that it is a good, progressive idea which will help Rice take its rightful place as a topnotch, WELL KNOWN school. If you see my points above, you will see that increasing Rice's size can not only help the university, but can also help individual students like YOU.</p>
<p>well, i meant my undergrad class...not the whole rice student class. you make a good point, but i dont know it reminds of a telemarketer. :D. youre probably right. i always knew of rice though,and ive met lots of people that know of it and are from outside of texas</p>
<p>caltech is another example (founded the same year). on top of that, its much smaller. i guess im thankful though because there is no way in hell i would get into caltech.</p>
<p>WHEN rice increases enrollment, how much do you guys predict tuition will rise? like..harvard cost, stanford cost, what? Because the endowment is hardly enough to keep tuition low @ its current rate of increase..hope that made sense...haha</p>
<p>I heard talk of increasing cost by 10,000 then giving all students a $10,000 scholarship and eventually easing it down or some such thing. I forget where I heard it though.</p>
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<p>I bolded my original words. Internationally, Rice is not very recognized at all. The power of a Harvard/Oxford degree in any subject is likely to be more than that of a Rice degree, internationally.</p>
<p>well yea of course. it doesnt matter to me as much. i wanna be a doctor. my undergrad is not as important. i want to go to BCM</p>
<p>From my understanding, the responses to Leebron's C2C are all being reviewed (if they haven't been already) and Leebron's proposals have been sent to the Board of Directors. There are still lots of rumors floating around. One is that the slow increase in undergrad enrollment would begin before the new colleges are completed, which would temporarily cause an increased # of upperclassmen to be jacked off campus :( I'd also heard that there were pland to build a biotech or chem. engineering bldg (I forget which, but biotech makes more sense) in the empty lot across from the med center, to include a connecting bridge over Main St. This would allow greater interaction between the college and the med center. I'd also heard that Leebron wanted to make the ... uh oh... either the Business or the Engineering grad program... (I forget which...) the #4 in the nation. These were from direct conversations with Leebron at an open house during a parent visitation weekend, so it is founded in truth-- limited by my bad memory!! However, these were ideas, formulated before the C2C was written. I agree that the grad programs, if slightly bigger, would attract more grant $$, better grad students and better faculty. I'm still not sure how I feel about the subtle shift to greater focus on the grad students and the increasing enrollment. Seems to me that Rice will feel a bit more like Dartmouth (minus the frats and the cold weather) at that point (which my s. looked at because of its size and availability of an undergrad engineering program). That's not bad, its just different. My s. prefers 2800 undergrads to 4000 undergrads. If Rice was bigger, even at 4000 undergrad, I don't know if he would have been as excited as he was when he first visited. I am still trying to keep an open mind. I am not happy, however, about the already increasing tuition... :(</p>
<p>Oops. Correction to above. Leebron's proposals went to the Board of Trustees, not the Board of Directors. Wrong terminology.</p>
<p>thank you jym for further clarification and insightful perspective!</p>
<p>Well, I would certainly not be happy if I was kicked off campus for any more than one year.</p>
<p>dont they kick you out eventually?</p>