<p>Everyone on this forum seems to think that being oos hurts chances of being admitted to ucla. However, in UCLA's admissions data, oos students have a higher admit rate than California residents. Is being oos a negative, if so why? I'd think that ucla would want to attract a more geographically diverse student body. Since oos students pay extra for tuition, doesn't that make up for not contribution to ucla through california taxes?. So I don't really understand why being oos would be a bad thing. Please explain.</p>
<p>The admit rate is higher but the quality of the applicants are probably higher.</p>
<p>The purpose of the UCs is to serve the people of California. Sure there is OOS but the mission of the university is to California. That being said, its probably not an issue of tuition as it is an issue of space. Each UC typically has anywhere from 400 (Merced) to 4800 (UCLA) students per class. That's a lot of people, and when priority is set to people from California, and when its hard enough as it is here to get into Cal or UCLA, then you better be sure you're a strong OOS candidate to compete for a very limited number of seats.</p>
<p>D is now oos third year at UCLA. My understanding is that 3% of her class was oos freshman year and this year incoming freshman class was about 1% oos. She was actively 'recruited' due to her strong science background and interest in engineering. Not supposed to make any difference but her Dad and Granddad are UCLA alums, both oos - but MANY years ago. :-)</p>
<p>I'm OOS and have only met 2 other kids who are also OOS...</p>
<p>i'm going to become oos... but i sure didn't start off that way lol. i've met one person who actually is oos this year, and i knew one girl last year who was from south america, but that's it.</p>
<p>Whoa ... I had gotten the impression that oos was hard but i had no idea it was that hard. Since oos tuition isn't that different from private school tuition and admissions is not going to be easier at a UC school, would I be better off applying to a private school, like stanford or (god forgive me) USC?</p>
<p>if you really want to go to school in california, you should DEFINITELY be looking at options other than UCs. if your goal is to get into a top-name school, ehh, leave out USC ;)
kidding on that one. but only kind of.</p>
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i've met one person who actually is oos this year, and i knew one girl last year who was from south america, but that's it.
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<p>Hmm... I know people from NH, NY, Maryland, Canada, WA, AZ, Singapore, Nevada, and Brazil.
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oos students have a higher admit rate than California residents.
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Well, that doesn't tell you anything about the applicant pools: in-state vs. OOS and the stats of the students compared to each other.</p>
<p>I don't think they post this... but do you know where we can find the stats of out of state students?</p>
<p>oh yah, sry emm. i guess you seem like a friend from high school to me ;)</p>
<p>i'm a california girl, and at my school we've always been under the impression that the top UCs are virtually impossible to get into oos, and those who do manage to get in have also probably been accepted to a number of equal or better schools. then again, a friend at UCLA has 2 roommates this year, both of whom are oos.</p>
<p>I know about 20 people from out of state, mostly Hawaii, Oregon and Canada. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>UCLA</a> Undergrad Admissions: Profile of Admitted Freshmen, Fall 2006</p>
<p>I couldn't get it to format right with a copy and paste right but the first column California residents, then out-of-state, international, applications withdrawn † total </p>
<p>applicants 40,560 4,549 1,712 496 47,317<br>
admits 10,577 1,233 379 - 12,189 </p>
<p>% admitted 26.08 27.10 22.14 - 25.76
% of apps 85.72 9.61 3.62 1.05</p>
<p>They don't publish separate stats for OOS students; if anything, people just word-of-mouth whatever stats that kid from Oregon got and how it was really high esp. considering Marlyand, Florida, Hawaii, and Brazil had top scores and GPA's as well. That, and there's the idea that those with higher stats would actually bother applying to the top publics OOS.</p>
<p>basically, out-of-staters have to give a compelling reason for a public school to admit them - why should they give up a spot for an in-state student (whom the school was founded for)? what do you bring to the school that separates you from the rest? i guess that's the same thing as any admissions process, but now the standard is a little higher since they need more justification.</p>
<p>Cal and LA, though (maybe even SD), are getting pressured to admitting more out-of-state students to make more revenue since the state doesn't seem to have any idea what it's doing.... but i doubt it'll be jumping to 10% or something like that.</p>
<p>Cal and UCLA are getting presseud to admit more OOS students?!!?!?? YESSSS! haha</p>
<p>California should just split off :D.</p>
<p>Alaska can come too...</p>
<p>Where are your sources? I'm curious about this as well...</p>
<p>there was a thread somewhere on this board before about privatizing public schools...think it was a proposal by one of the UC officials, maybe one of the regents. Cal was the specific college mentioned, but the budget struggle affects all UCs, and LA also has a high standard to uphold without raising fees. i'm pretty sure increasing out-of-state admissions was one of the possibilities cited for Cal to keep up its income (or whatever the word is).</p>
<p>and then there's all the articles on the Daily Bruin about the 08-09 budget.</p>