Thanks I didnt know that about Columbia College - I can look into it further.
Also yeah 300k in NYC is definitely possible, but i guess what I was trying to say is regardless, anywhere in the finance/tech space, I should be making a decent amount of money.
So maybe that does or does not factor in how much debt I can take to get both degrees, or whether I choose just a single degree instead.
Yeah thats a fair point; however I plan to do my bs in cs, while my ms will be in stats or data science (still early tho).
Tho i definitely agree with what u have said
yeah, ig that makes, sense - I can look into it further
Okay thanks for sharing, I can look further into that.
Also I don’t have credit from another college, but its AP credit which I believe Columbia does take.
As well, having to take a summer course is not ideal, but I would only have to take one, so I don’t feel its too big a deal. On top of that the scholars program will give me money to stay on campus for both (food/dorm) so I don’t think it will be the worst thing in the world.
But definitely something for me to look further into. Thanks!
I believe this is incorrect from what I hear 
All quant shops use some amount of human discretion to some degree or other.
Thanks!
Thanks for listing these out for me!
Don’t count your chickens before they hatch. You haven’t even started undergrad yet, and you are listing masters programs at three of the most competitive programs in the country.
But back to your question…it is my opinion that doing great internships/jobs in the summers will improve your resume far more than finishing undergrad early.
I am being facetious. But the OP seems to put great faith in “talking” to a bunch of other young people, vs. picking up the phone and getting actual data-- i.e. having a Columbia advisor walk him through how it would work IF (kid hasn’t even had his first class yet and he’s already got a Master’s and a job) kid elects to graduate early.
Sometimes the course sequence doesn’t align. Talking to a kid who graduated in three years a couple of years ago won’t reveal that.
“Also I don’t have credit from another college, but its AP credit which I believe Columbia does take.”
Don’t believe- ask. Get an answer from a reliable source.
I agree with you whole heartedly about sitting down and having a detailed conversation with the guidance office at Columbia.
For a BS in CS, you could be taking the same courses that a stat or data science master would take if you’re leaning toward that side of CS, beyond the basic CS “core” (programming fundamentals, algorithms, theories, and so on). The boundaries between CS, DS and stat are blurred in that area. In this day and age, they all need applied and/or theoretical probabilities, statistical inferences, stochastics, optimization, machine learning, etc.
I know everything is way too far ahead, I still have a couple of years to actually make the decision. I just like having a general idea of what is and isn’t possible.
I know I can get the AP credit - i was just said it that way bc i was trying to be polite
Fair enough but the only reason I list those is that Columbia has its own bs/ms program so i find it quite pointless, to go to a school other than one of the top ones - if that makes sense? So if those don’t work out, i can just stay at Columbia?
Also i do agree with internships and research being important, that could differentiate whether I choose to graduate in 3 or 3.5 years.
Thanks!
Yep - definitely will do this
Tho i think I should wait a little before (that’s why Im asking people on the internet first)
I don’t want to waste an advisors time, and then turn down Columbia for Harvard in the (unlikely but possible) chance I get off the waitlist
You should turn down Columbia for Harvard if you want to go to quant 
Or go back and ask Princeton
Not kidding.
Okay thats good to know, thanks!
yeah if Harvard works out I’ll definitely go there. Last year they didn’t accept anyone from the waitlist, this year its rumored that they will. Which doesn’t surprise me, a lot of the kids that had just went to the Harvard admitted student event (Visitas), and then came to Yale’s event said they were taking Yale over Harvard (apparently they all hated Visitas).
So maybe a couple spots open up.
Too late for Pton lol, but its cool, i figured id prefer Columbia. Tough choice tho
Let me just throw the word “Core” at you. Less a factor at SEAS than at CC, but still a factor.
There’s nothing wrong with you posing the question, but my recommendation is not to count on 3 years as being likely.
Yeah I’m probably just gonna aim to graduate in 3.5 - which should be feasible on an average course load. The core isn’t really that bad, like 2 or 3 classes in the humanities, and a few stem classes that I would want to take anyway (physics, chem, calc 3, etc). Also SEAS has no foreign language requirement, which is nice, cuz i dropped Spanish last year for foundations of math proof.
I agree 3 isn’t likely, but definitely possible
Your issue with that 3.5 is that so many courses are full year courses…and are offered in a specific sequence and often starting in the fall quarter.
You really really need to speak to someone at Columbia about the feasibility AND advisability of your plan.
After reading the entire thread, I feel that op was like me 20nyears ago and I wish I listened to all suggestions from pp…. I skipped a grade in HS, I had BS double major, graduated in 3years, and went to get MS in the #1 school in the nation for my field. My parents were first gen immigrants so I understood why they pushed me they way they did to hurry through colleges and start making $ to support my elders.
I can’t comment on OPs courseload and personal finances, just simply stating that I wish I had another year in college to mature. Grad school was Very cutthroat and I was the youngest. It’s very clear to me that OP is a bright and intelligent kid, running 100 mph on many things and likely very good at multitasking. Just note that high IQ doesn’t equate to high EQ, there’s so much to learn from 4 years of college, dealing with roommates, befriend students, professors, team projects, or finding living arrangements, even partying on weekends (true networking opportunities ) that slowly build and shape your interpersonal skills. I did a fair share of recruiting so I can confidently say that companies value EQ as much as IQ, if not more. Everyone is smart if they are hired, but ones that get promoted quickly are all high EQ.
Life isn’t a bulldozer or a precise formula, people change their majors too. I commend op for knowing exactly what to study. there’s a lot to enjoy in college regardless in Ivies or state schools. one shouldn’t power through the best time of their life. No matter what you choose to do, I sincerely wish you the best, and have some fun too