<p>This is the first year that they're allowing HS seniors apply to Ross directly. Anybody got predictions about how selective it will be compared to Wharton, Sloan, and Stern?</p>
<p>By the way these are my stats and I'm from out of state:</p>
<p>SAT: 2220 (800 M, 740 V, 680 W), hoping I will break 2300 when retake in Oct.
SAT II: 780 math iic, 780 us history, 750 bio (taking physics and chinese in Nov., expecting 800 on them)
National Merit Scholar qualifier
APs: 5 US history, 5 AP Stats
GPA and rank: 95.7 and predicting top 10 out of 650
Courseload: most rigorous possible</p>
<p>ECs, nothing specacular here:
-NHS, 2 years
-Spanish Honor Society, 2 yrs
-Bio, Chemistry, and Physics team: received a couple of awards for state competitions, 3 yrs
-class cabinet, 3 yrs
-track and XC, 2 yrs (had to quit due to a shin problem)
-ping pong club 2 yrs</p>
<p>-cashier at shop rite, 1 yr
-volunteer at local library, 2 yr
-volunteer at senior home, 1 1/2 yr
-internship at Orthodontist's office (picked through a very selective REACH program through the school)
-internship at Howard Hughes Medical Institute (shadowed a cancer researcher for 4 weeks)
-volunteer at local Chinese School (worked as tutor, student rep., newspaper editor, and principal's advisor), 3 yrs</p>
<p>They're only going to take a handful. It's probably going to be like Wharton, maybe even tougher. The thing is, it's the same thing as applying after freshman year LSA because the business curriculum starts second year, not first. Getting in from HS means you can guarantee you will be in Ross starting second year, so it's good, but trying to get in directly from HS is just extremely tough. </p>
<p>I don't know what happens if you're rejected from HS, like whether you're out of Umich completely or you get accepted into the LSA program. You don't want to risk anything.</p>
<p>njchino, it is difficult to predict how difficult it is going to get into Ross fresh out of high school. It depends on how well Michigan marketed the new opportunity. </p>
<p>Redhare, there is no risk to High School seniors applying to the Ross since applicants must first get accepted in the school of LSA before being considered by Ross.</p>
<p>probably not too hard, considering mich currently has a 60%+ acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Quakerman, that is a very misleading statement. It is impossible to predict how difficult it is going to be to get into Ross straight out of high school since this is the first time the University of Michigan will allow students to apply directly to the Business school. It really depends on how many students the University decides to allow into the program (some say 50, others say it is not limited and could easily climb to over 100) and how many students apply to the Business school in the first place. I see the acceptance rate being anywhere between 5% and 25%, with mean SAT scores hovering in the 1450-1500 range, but that's just an estimate.</p>
<p>Besides, since when is acceptance rate an indication of how easy it is to get into a university? The University of Chicago accepts between 40% and 60% of its applicants annually. Michigan accepts between 45% and 65% of its applicants annually. Both are very difficult to get into. </p>
<p>But I would not compare getting into Ross with getting into Michigan. Ross is one of the top 2 or 3 Business schools in the nation and it is tiny. I would be very surprised if the acceptance rate into Ross climbs over 25%.</p>
<p>Alexandre, do you know how hard it is to get in after freshmen year if one does not get in as a HS senior?</p>
<p>If you can maintain a 3.5 GPA (which is pretty difficult) and have a good essay explaining why you wish to apply to the Ross, you have a 50/50 chance. Your chances get better as your GPA climbs over 3.5 and get progressively worse as your GPA dips below 3.5. If your GPA is under 3.3, you have virtually no chance of getting into Ross.</p>
<p>Thanks, so I guess the curve at UMich is pretty harsh</p>
<p>Yes, a 3.5 GPA at Michigan would place you in the 85th %ile. Keep in mind that the 85th %ile of Michigan students graduated with a 4.0 GPA, ranked in the top 1% of their high school class and had close to 1500 on their SAT.</p>
<p>I don't think anyone here really has a good idea of how hard it is to get in as a senior, simply because it's the first year. As for applying as a freshman, my advisor told me that currently it's about 50 percent for those who get in. Keep in mind, though, that that figure includes the in state people who apply to Ross and got into UMich w lower stats. However, because the school just got a 100 million donation it will certainly be more difficult next year because many more people will apply. So I would say that if you're a 4.0, over 2200 SAT, lots of Ap's the standard "perfect" student, you have a good chance and will probably get into LSA, but you can still apply your freshman year like everyone else.</p>
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<p>In addition to the usual objections (already covered) I'd also like to point out that an institution could have a 100% acceptance rate, with virtually open admission, and still have special programs that require admittance. One would be foolhardy indeed to assume that the overal admit rate for first time freshmen correlates to the admit rate for a specialized, highly desirable unit or program.</p>
<p>Put another way, if you attend public secondary school, they accept everyone in the district. 100% acceptance. Not competitive at all in that sense. Does that mean it's easy to make 1st chair violin in orchestra? Does that mean it's easy to get into a by-permission-only Honors French class? There is very little relationship between being admitted to the school and being admitted into competitive programs within the school.</p>