how important is that sat I M score for MIT??

<p>I currently have a 710 M for the SAT. I know MIT says december is the last date, but they say on their website that they might consider the january score.</p>

<p>How important is the math score? How much will getting a 750+ help?
I also got a 720 on the IIc. Should I retake that instead? The only problem with retaking IIc is that some of my other schools don't care as much about it.</p>

<p>Here are my complete stats to give you a better picture of myself. </p>

<p>Highest SAT I
Verbal 700
Math 710</p>

<p>Highest SAT II
Writing 660
Physics 670
IIC 720
US His 750</p>

<p>GPA 4.1/4.5</p>

<p>top 5%</p>

<p>AVG EC's</p>

<p>toughest courseload junior and senior year
regular classes frosh and sophomore year</p>

<p>I already know MIT is a SUPER REACH, but how much can improving my math satI help me?</p>

<p>Your stats will get you past triage - focus on the rest of your application :)</p>

<p>are you female or URM? </p>

<p>oh yes, I expect flames.</p>

<p>A white male can be admitted with an even lower SAT I Math score. ;)</p>

<p>Being female or URM makes no difference here!</p>

<p>how would i focus on other parts of my app? i already sent it in. </p>

<p>So i'm basically screwed.</p>

<p>theleet- you're a trouble maker</p>

<p>I applied to MIT and I'm a legacy and stuf, I <em>tried</em> to make my shortanswer/essay EXTREMELEY passionate but I duno how well that went. I have a 1410 combined SAT but it's 670 verbal 740 math...and then for SAT2 i have 750writing 800IIc...do you guys think my 750writing might make up a bit for my 670 verbal score?</p>

<p>Take the SAT's again, because you can improve both verbal and math with it.</p>

<p>“I want everyone to know there’s only one way to get in here, and that’s the hard way."</p>

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<li>Marilee Jones</li>
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<p>The best way to cite MIT's policies on scores is really easy. </p>

<p>Scores that demonstrate academic competence are necessary -- i.e., "bad" scores count against you.</p>

<p>But on the other hand, "great" scores don't really count for you. If you look on the EA threads, you'll notice how scores did not get people into MIT.</p>

<p>And for the record, your scores aren't bad. Don't let anyone make you think that. MIT aside, I'd guess your SAT I would put you into the 97-8th percentile. On the other hand, it would put you probably in the lower quartile of MIT SAT Is. My suggestion would be to not worry about the SAT I. Focus on other parts of the app -- they matter a lot more than you think. MIT has a large range of SAT I scores -- it runs from 1350s to 1600s. The lesson? The SAT score is not the largest factor.</p>

<p>I would say get the Math SAT's up. Most of the students at MIT that I have talked to have very high 700s on the Math section. Plus, you could raise your verbal. (My SATs were 790M 650V.)</p>

<p>
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Competitive Scores
For students we admitted in 2004, the middle 50% score range was between 680-770 for SAT-I: Verbal and 730-800 for SAT-I: Math. We do not have cutoff scores for the SAT I and SAT II, as scores are evaluated within an applicant's context.

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<p>This should help a little bit</p>

<p>"We do not have cutoff scores for the SAT I and SAT II, as scores are evaluated within an applicant's context."</p>

<p>Read:</p>

<p>"Females and URMs don't need as high SAT scores."</p>

<p>
[quote]
Females and URMs don't need as high SAT scores.

[/quote]

That might be a little generalized. A female or URM whose parents graduated from HYPMS, lives in a huge house, and attends the best prep schools in the nation will probably be expected to get very high scores as well. Being female or URM doesn't mean that they are at a disadvantage. There is no evidence to suggest that they are inferior in intelligence and therefore don't need as high SAT scores. In addition, females and URM may bring many unique contributions to campus that others cannot.</p>

<p>Also, you said they don't need as high SAT scores. No one needs high scores to get in. If by your definition high score means like 700+ I'm sure most of them have it. Once you are in the range, it's rest of the application that gets you in.</p>

<p>theleet,</p>

<p>All of the EA admit females I've talked to have (far) higher scores than me, and I'm a white male with professional parents. I strongly encourage you to read Ben Jones' blog posts which discuss the true role of scores and grades in admissions. Once you are over the grade/score threshold, so to speak, it is all about the character, joy, and passion you convey through the application. The females I've spoken with are truly amazing in their own right and it's quite clear that gender could not have played a role in their admission.</p>

<p>This topic has been beaten to death on both prominent admissions blogs and I really wonder what your preoccupation with the whole race/gender argument is.</p>

<p>my point: race/gender discrimination is bad.</p>

<p>Well it's true.</p>

<p>The problem is when people automatically assume, on the basis of gender or race (and I'm not sure which one is more frequent...), that a person "doesn't REALLY deserve to be at [insert school, job, etc]". That really makes my blood boil. I just want you to know, I guess. </p>

<p>With that being said, I'm going to go ahead and offer information about myself that might fuel theleet's fire? Anyway, adjlad, I got in with a 710 SAT I Math, so it is possible. But of course, my Verbal was 800, my Math IIc 800, my Writing 800. And I took the test again in December (assuming I'd get deffered and I'd need a higher math score) and I got a 780 on the math. So I guess they saw that potential in me. </p>

<p>I've offered a lot of facts without any sort of logical conclusions drawn; maybe I'll get to that later when I don't feel like I just took a nap (which I just did). But they are there for what they are worth.</p>

<p>"Females and URMs don't need as high SAT scores. "</p>

<p>Since when are you the judge of what anyone "needs" to get into MIT?</p>

<p>what ****es me off is the kids at school who attribute my getting in to being an URM...no credit :(
ahhh i hate it!!!</p>

<p>really, it all depends on what you're majoring in. For the humanities (which would be weird if you want to go to MIT), you don't need as high of a score.</p>

<p>um... the intended major isn't considered when making admissions decisions...</p>