^^NY Times weddings announcements are no longer reserved for the Society 400. They’re looking for interesting stories too.
Speaking of the 400–who in some quarters would be considered prestigious people–the custom is/was to have your name in the paper 3 times, when you’re born, married, and died, which was the three times you’d take a bath back in the Middle Ages.
Weddingcrunchers.com is awesome! Someone should do a ranking based off of that (adjusting for regional bias and school size).
In fact, they should combine the wedding announcements in the 12 biggest CSAs (all >5M), which would also take care of the regional bias problem, adjusted by population:
NYC, LA, Chicagoland, DC, Bay Area, Boston, Metroplex, Philly, Houston, Miami, Atlanta, Detroit
Going to college AT ALL, ANYWHERE is “selective and exclusive” to the VAST majority of Americans. Maybe you should venture out beyond your exclusive borders and meet some regular working folk.
That’s a gross generalization. I went to Penn; my sister went to Penn State. Believe it or not, there are plenty of Philadelphians who know graduates of both schools and work right alongside each other.
And again you vastly inflate Penn’s reputation in other parts of the country. Those “rubes” in HR at the biomedical research organization I interviewed with didn’t realize they were two distinct universities, nor did they care once I clarified. They were just glad I had a bachelor’s degree from one of them to meet their minimum requirements for employment!
It’s old now, but it’s still a classic “must read” for social climbers everywhere: http://www.amazon.com/Class-Through-American-Status-System/dp/0671792253
And Fussell taught at Penn for a while too!
Bluebayou, I will forgo the mentions on the Periodic Table for one in the Taxonomic Record.
Its only been in the last 15 years that I learned that NYU was considered a very desirable school by some ( and was surprised by the numbers of students who want to apply on CC) and that Ivy schools were also considered the * crème de la crème* by many as well. This is despite knowing a few profs who currently teach at NYU.
But I agree that at least part of the attraction is location,location,location.
I also confused Cornell University with Cornell College, and thought UPenn was the state flagship.
It would make more sense of UPENN was the state flagship, wouldn’t it? I mean, it’s called University of Pennsylvania. It has a state in its name, you would think that it’s public.
Also, NYU’s location is about 75% of the attraction to it.
@emeraldkity4 lmao “Cornell college”… funny how the university and the college are worlds apart in terms of their academic strengths.
i can just imagine a top student applying to Cornell college thinking it was cornell uni, :))
@emeraldkity4 Has NYU become more desirable due to its strong individual colleges like Tisch or Stern, maybe CAS?
And for other people wondering abt my former NYU threads I withdrew my ED agreement, I’m pretty sure I’ll be going to either UC San Diego, UCLA or UC Berkeley depending on which one I get into.
All three of those are great universities, and each could be the flagship campus in most smaller states. If you attend any of the three, suck the place dry of all that it offers, and do well in school, you’ll have plenty of opportunities post-college. I wish you luck with admissions and choices come springtime.
@Jarjarbinks23 why did you withdraw the ED agreement? Too expensive?
Accidental double post
A “top student” can get a great education at Cornell College–and many choose to. Cornell College is one of only a couple of schools in the U.S. that follows a “one course at a time” approach (Colorado College is the other). It’s a completely different way of learning and one that works for a lot of students. Cornell College has produced many successful alumni.
You might benefit from looking into some of the schools you dismiss out of hand because they lack the sparkly “prestige factor” you care so much about.
To the OP: IMO, Haas is as prestigious as and offers as many opportunities as Stern. Getting in is competitive, however.
If you decide to go in another direction, all 3 of Cal, UCLA, and UCSD are highly-regarded in engineering and CS.
An NCAA Division I (Football Championship Subdivision) athletic conference.
I will give NYU their due, however. Unlike the Ivies of the time, NYU did not discriminate against Jews.
@PurpleTitan You didn’t hit a neve at all. I have a graduate of NYU in vocal performance and another who is there for studio art. Both programs have been excellent and both d’s have loved their experience and have gotten an excellent overall education, so I am nor relying on others who have not attended the school and haven’t had any first hand experience to help me form my opinion on the quality of NYU.
And if you re-read my first post, I never compared NYU to the Ivy League nor said that NYU is on the same level as Williams, Tufts or Rice. What I did say is that NYU had more name recognition and prestige than a school like Williams, Tufts or Rice.
Are you saying Pace has equal prestige to NYU? Really? Would you say the same about Baruch, too? Because as a Brooklyn born New Yorker, I’d head to Baruch for an accounting or business degree over Pace.
You don’t have to believe in US news and World report rankings. But I think you’d be hard pressed to find many who would agree with you and consider NYU as a whole equal to a school that ranks about 140ish schools lower. I’d be curious to know what departments you feel bring NYU’s rank and prestige down so low, since you do acknowledge a few departments as being highly ranked.
@uskoolfish, I admit that I’m not well-versed in the relative rankings or reputations of various NYC area schools. Which is why I said if you want to consider NYU to be, on the whole, vastly superior to Pace, please go ahead and do so. If you want to say I’m tremendously off the mark, go right ahead. I’m not going to challenge you. I don’t have a dog in this fight.
I don’t think it’s a stretch to say NYU would have a better general CC rep if their aid picture cleared up. I don;t know their current supp questions, but was convinced at least one of the former ones was designed to vet out kids who confused the City with the college- and didn’t really know the college.
@ucbalumnus, so it’s a sports thing? What, do those schools have really good sports teams? Why do purely academic people care about it if it is about sports?
Not saying sports is bad or anything, but if the “Ivy League” ranking has to do with sports, I can see why an athlete would really be nuts about going there, but why the really smart, competitive academic students? I guess it just happens to be that the Ivies are fine schools all around so they already have a certain level of prestige (for whatever reason.)
@albert69: Started as a sports league, then marketing made it what it is today (and done well, too).
At my school, most people know what the Ivies (and other good universities) are, including their names; however, not many people apply to or go to LACs (even top ones) because they aren’t well known. Our state flagships are considered good, but that’s because they are (Cal and UCLA); you could say our school is a feeder to the UCs (~40 accepted to UCLA and Cal each a year, and more for the less selective schools in the system). I wouldn’t say we’re a feeder to the Ivies, Stanford, and MIT, but we have around five people get accepted to each a year, which heightens the college awareness. That being said, when I tell people Harvey Mudd is one of my dream schools (alongside Stanford and MIT), most don’t know what I’m talking about.
My dad was looking at a list of the top 50 colleges from some website the other day, and he was surprised when he didn’t recognize many (mainly LACs, of which there were quite a few), as he also went through my sister’s college process (however, he has decided I have higher prospects than her, which I’m not entirely sure about, since although I have better stats, she had stellar ECs).