<p>definately!!</p>
<p>with in-state tuition I know for a fact I can afford it, I have 2 classes to finish here at the CC in WV in the spring, then OU here I come!!</p>
<p>omg</p>
<p>ummm, you still need to contact the correct parties to apply to the program & get accepted before you get TOO excited, but great that you now have a plan. Good luck!</p>
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<p>I already sent an email :o</p>
<p>The thing is, I never would have found this. I've been working for weeks trying to find a way into and around the OOS tuition in OU and other colleges because of the reason in the ACM - that there are no in-state programs here.</p>
<p>The link was very hard to find, so my advice to others is to look EVERYWHERE for those little surprise links.</p>
<p>i'm not sure what I need to do to qualify, but I will do everything in my power to get it.</p>
<p>I'll leave with a mom-ish comment-- take your family with you wherever you go. It is a decision you and your spouse will make together, and you both need to consider very carefully the effect four years apart will have on family life. Family means you're in it together. It also means you have to give up or adjust some dreams for the well being of the family. Four years apart will be extremely disruptive to family life. You can't just step in during school breaks and think things will be the same. Being apart also has financial reprecussions-- two households, travel, loss of some emplyment opportunities because you will have to leave to go to school or go home for breaks.</p>
<p>I wouldn't worry about it. </p>
<p>turns out OU scrapped the undergrad ACM, it's graduate only. They just hadn't updated the site.</p>
<p>JCampbell -- I am so sorry to hear that -- I was so excited for you!</p>
<p>Do you have other good options? You are right, the information is hard to get!</p>
<p>I'm still trying, but it's not looking good. AMS, NWS, NOAA, and NSSL all provide undergraduate scholarships, however they're to traditional students (i.e. still in school) or for graduate studies.</p>
<p>I talked to an admissions officer at OU, he suggested moving to OK for a year, but I'm not sure because that's a huge step, not to mention what would I do there for a year? And even then, I might not even get it if they feel I moved there just for the school (although with me getting a job and not applying until 2007 might take care of that.)</p>
<p>There are a lot of other schools that are in the ACM:
<a href="http://www.sreb.org/programs/acm/participating/institutions.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.sreb.org/programs/acm/participating/institutions.asp</a></p>
<p>however the only school with a BS in Meteorology is OU. Others offer BS in science and a masters in Meteorology, which doesn't have as much as a focus.. OU is not what i'd call the top SCHOOL, but they have the top program for Meteorology. In addition, OU has internships, summer work, and mentor programs and is extremely close to the NWS.. it's to meteorology as Harvard is to law.</p>
<p>I shot an email to Millersville, I know that they do offer a BS in Meteorology, and also that thier main programs are music and education, so letting them know I am an interested met student might open them up to giving more aid or lower fees.</p>
<p>I'm really kinda depressed about it right now... 12 hours ago everything was going great. Now.. I'm back to square one.</p>
<p>mom58, my family situation isn't the best right now. I won't get into it, but it's not as though the family would be split.</p>
<p>I'm running out of options, I will keep looking for a way to pay for this. Waiting a year is all in good, but I'm 27. I've pushed this off 4 tmes in the past decade: 1997, 2001, 2003, and 2004. There needs to be a time when I stop pushing it off.</p>
<p>I don't want to be 65, and look back at my life-my one shot-and not have done everything to live it how I wanted.</p>
<p>Your tuition at California U of Pa would be about $8k for out of state, and they have the program. Would that school be within commutable distance for you. If you have most of your cores requirements taken care of and take those you don't during the summer, you may be able to get out a little earlier. Look for commutable options.</p>
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Your tuition at California U of Pa would be about $8k for out of state, and they have the program. Would that school be within commutable distance for you. If you have most of your cores requirements taken care of and take those you don't during the summer, you may be able to get out a little earlier. Look for commutable options.
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<p>How did I miss this school?</p>
<p>Congrats,JCampbell. You found the perfect solution yourself, it seems, and we all learned something too. Keep us posted on what you end up doing. </p>
<p>I don't know where you live in WV--I have friends who live there who are on the PA border and enough of a distance from Morgantown that commuting there is not an easy option, but some of the other PA schools are. Some of the non-mainstream Pa state schools are reasonably priced even for out of staters, unlike Penn State or Pitt and for someone with good stats, some financial sweetners may even be thrown in to help with the aid. Of course, communting is not cheap either.</p>
<p>Whoops, I left the computer and things have changed. Hope you can work out something. Let us know.</p>
<p>The other option is to finish up instate or anywhere you can afford with an Airforce ROTC program taking courses towards a degree as close to meteorology as you can get and do airforce ROTC at the same time-that will give you $$ as well. Then you can go to the Airforce Institute in Ohio for a meteorology graduate program getting paid a very nice officers salary. I believe you can get commissioned in two year which is about what you need to get your BS or BA. My friend's son did something like this though not in meteorology. I know it's tough moving a family, but many of us have had to do it in order to get closer to the future we wanted.</p>
<p>Can't go ROTC, I have a history with the military I don't want to get into.</p>
<p>The reviews of CUP aren't all that great:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.studentsreview.com/PA/CUP.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.studentsreview.com/PA/CUP.html</a></p>
<p>however the campus looks nice, admissions looks like it's a giant safety (I've already applied, just sending out the fee tomorrow) and I can use it if I can't convince the MIU Bursar to cut me some slack... I mean, c'mon, MIU is mainly education and music, I've been looking at MIU for about 6 years now, it's second to OU only because of the massive amount of funding and closeness to the NWS OU has.</p>
<p>So I figure if I can't get the Bursar to see that I'll be more than happy to establish residence in PA, I can just go to CUP, establish residence while there, take even more core classes (classes my local CC doesn't have) and then transfer to MIU for my Junior and Senior year, then take Grad at OU since I won't need to take out much in loans for a B.S.</p>
<p>Now, if I were the Bursar, I'd look at this guy (me) applying, and notice that if MIU takes him (me again) in, lets him establish residency, than MIU will make what, about $24,000 in tuition that would otherwise go to CUP. From a business standpoint, it seems to make sense to let me in with a reduced tuition... it benefits both me and MIU.</p>
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<blockquote> <p>Move and work a year before starting school. It will be nearly impossible to change your residency after you start, so establish residency before you apply.>></p> </blockquote>
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<p>If you are not an independent student (stringent rules for becoming one), it doesn't matter what you do for a year. Your state of residency in most cases will be where your parents live until your are 24, or married, or a parent, or a veteran, or have a bachelor's degree, or are an orphan, or are a ward of the state prior to the age of 18.</p>
<p>I'm an independent student (I'm 27)</p>
<p>JCampbell -- sounds like you are working on a good plan! I was worried that you would give it up because things just weren't working out.</p>
<p>If you have the time (and as an adult, we just don't have as much) do some scholarship searches for non-traditional students. There are some out there and they tend to rely very little on high school stats and primarily on what you have done since high school. Being ex-military can help, regardless of your history. Every little bit of money will help.</p>
<p>Whatever you do, try and minimize your loans -- however possible. If you can, take summer classes, heavier courseloads, etc. </p>
<p>Another thing to consider -- talk to the head of the department you are interested in at the schools you are interested in. go in person, if close enough. sit down and have a good talk about what you want to do and where you are planning on going. They may have some good suggestions and may go to bat for you.</p>
<p>thanks...one thing I learned is to never give up, especially what's important to you. Giving up isn't an option.</p>
<p>another option, a friend just told me about UND, they have a very relaxed residency policy, apparently if you move there, and work you can get in-state tuition.</p>
<p>I'm not 100% sure on it, but I also like thier program, so I'm going to apply there also.</p>
<p>so now I have</p>
<p>1) OU (not going to happen, going to wait until the graduate program
2) Millersville, either barter myself in or transfer fro CUP
3) UND</p>
<p>That's about the spread as it is right now.</p>
<p>I'm haven't read this whole thread...but there are schools that do give instate tuition to OOS students who receive scholarships with a minimum dollar amount. For example, U of North Texas gives instate tuition to any student who receives a $1000 scholarship (I think that is the dollar amount...someone else could verify this?). U of South Carolina Columbia awards instate tuition to students receiving scholarships $500 or more. I'm sure there are others. As an independent student, you could (and should) consider moving to a state, working there for a year and then enrolling in college. You could possibly save some money for school and you would most certainly save money paying the instate vs out of state rate.</p>
<p>I get that a lot, however there is a problem with moving and working for a year, then enrolling- I'm out of community college after the spring semester, not because of a degree, but because my CC is so horrible that they don't offer any math over Algebra II (i.e. Calculus) and I would be out of school for two semesters. This would possibly invalidate my transfer status.</p>
<p>Also, I would have to move, and establish a place to live out there. I have a family, and while it's not perfect and I can do fine being away for a few months at a time (I've done it before due to a specific job I held) going away for a year might be harder.</p>
<p>I have the funds to move out there, but moving halfway across the country is still difficult. I'm also feeling the crunch of time. I hope to get a masters in meteorology, and that's 6 years.</p>
<p>I'm 27, and will be 28 when starting wherever I end up at. That means when I'm done with my schooling I will be 34 and every year I delay really hurts my gut inside... I'm feeling the age and to be honest, it scares me.</p>
<p>Now, an admin at OU did suggest to me that I may consider moving and then attending a year from now, and it could be done, plus I'm sure the CC's nearby have better math programs. however I wouldn't be eligable until spring 2008 for in state tuition.</p>
<p>it's something I'll have to consider, and will have to think hard on.</p>
<p>I can't apply to OU if I want to consider that, good thing I haven't.</p>
<p>JCampbell, it appears that you have done your homework and research on this. I do want to warn you that math beyond ALG2/Trig can be a bear, especially if your college math basics are weak. I believe meteorology requires some really tough courses, and many kids who start with it as a major have calc and physics (the tough line for Math, science, engineering majors, not for the general majors) as a freshman. California U may be a better transition from comm coll, and then finishing up in the meteorology major. I know some engineers who had to do things that way because their basic math classes were weak though their motivation was high. Also moving your family a couple of hours away may not be as difficult of a transition for you. When you do become a meteorologist, you are going to have to go where the job offers are if you need a continuous income. It may mean moving to Alaska even. We've been through this as a family, and it is not easy.</p>