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just want to know if it is harder for international students to get in...</p>
<p>Is it true that the number of Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese is over flouring and now most colleges don't have enough room for them...?</p>
<p>MIT and Berkeley does</p>
<p>I would say most schools have some sort of "quota" on internationals; their primary goal is to educate Americans, not internationals who will likely leave and go back to their home countries. Public schools are probably more difficult for an international to be admitted to than private schools though.</p>
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Public schools are probably more difficult for an international to be admitted to than private schools though.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it were the other way round. At public universities a smaller percent of the student body is international, but the student body itself is a lot larger than at private colleges. In the end publics might enroll a higher number of international students, with fewer applicants per spot.</p>
<p>The one reason I could think of why public universities might be more attractive to internationals than privates are lower tuition fees. But out-of-state tuition is often as high as tuition at private colleges, so there is no advantage there - and privates sometimes give financial aid to internationals, which most publics don't.</p>
<p>I am not aware of public universities that publish their admission rate for international students (other than UCs), but at private colleges the rates are relatively low (often ~ 1/2 of the overall admission rate).</p>
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I wouldn't be surprised if it were the other way round. At public universities a smaller percent of the student body is international, but the student body itself is a lot larger than at private colleges. In the end publics might enroll a higher number of international students, with fewer applicants per spot.
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Good point, I hadn't thought of that. I was thinking more along the lines that a public university likely has a general "out of state" quota, as they'd be trying to service the state's local residents (so it's more difficult for anyone out of state to be admitted, never mind internationals). But, considering the numbers, it could be easier for an international to be admitted if there are fewer internationals applying to begin with.</p>
<p>But then again, most of the students who apply as internationals, prefer to apply only to known universities, which means a lot more internationals are applying to the same universities... :(</p>
<p>UNC Chapel Hill has a quota.</p>
<p>Many schools who officially do not have a quota seem to admit internationals at roughly the same percentages as schools which do have a formal quota. For example MIT has a quota and Harvard does not. Nonetheless internationals make up roughly the same percentage of MIT's incoming class each year as Harvard's.</p>
<p>This is a more philosophical approach to the topic and maybe not in the sense of the OP, but I feel that we have to define what we mean by a quota first.</p>
<p>If a quota is defined as in "we will admit at most 127 international students a year" then most universities do not have a strict quota. But most universities certainly do have a target for their international student population, e.g. they might want 10-15% of their student body to be international.</p>
<p>Of course some universities might not even go that far to establish a target because they receive only very few applications from international students, and thus gladly accept anyone who is qualified. For example, let's say 2% of a university's student body is international when they accept any international student with an appropriate academic preparation. If suddenly they received a LOT more international applicants, they might decide that they only want 5% of their student body to be international. One could argue that the university had an implicit 5% quota all along and that it just did not matter before because the number of applications never exceeded the "quota".</p>
<p>In my opinion a good way to think about quotas is to ask: if suddenly the number of international applicants tripled (qualifications remaining constant), would the university accept three times as many internationals? At most colleges the answer is no, and therefore they do have a "quota" of some sort in my opinion. (Actually they would have to admit a little bit less than three times as many internationals and also fewer domestic students to keep the overall enrollment constant, but I won't go into the math at this point.)</p>
<p>spot on, b@r!um!</p>
<p>wow, great answer b@r!um</p>