<p>Here are my stats...would these not be enough for SFS</p>
<p>How would anyone rate my chances to SFS...</p>
<p>GPA: 4.0 equivalent (5.84 of a 5.9 weighted)
SATs: 2250 (CR 800, M 700, W 750)
SAT IIs: Math II 790, Lit 790, US His 780
Class Rank: 2/350</p>
<p>EC's
-Captain of Academic Decathalon (1st Place Speech, Interview, various other awards in the state)
-Captain of Debate (currently ranked 1st place)
-Tennis for 3 years (state champion JV Team)
-Managing Editor of Newspaper (Winner of Columbia Press Awards)
-Governor's School for International Studies
-NHS
-World Language NHS
-Class Officer
-Student Ambassador</p>
<p>Comm Service:
-CCD Teacher & Counselor for Mentally Handicapped Children at local YMCA</p>
<p>Awards:</p>
<p>-1st Place St. Peter's Oratorical Contest (Biggest Oratorical Contest on the East Coast)...won $10,000 and donated half to the Pat Tillman Foundation
-1st Place Speech in the State for Academic Decathalon
-Speaker of the House at CYLC
-Many other smaller oratorical/speechwriting awards</p>
<h2>-1st Place Voices of Democracy</h2>
<p>Essays: Some of the best I've written</p>
<p>Rec's:
-One from a solid alumni
-One from Pat Tillman's brother (Pat Tillman was the football player who died in Afghanistan)
-Teacher and Couns Recs are solid</p>
<p>State: NJ
Eth. White</p>
<p>Dude, we see your chances thread, you don't have to post your chances stuff 4 times.</p>
<p>sorry, first day on this thing...not sure how it works</p>
<p>That's what I figured, don't worry about it. Welcome to the forums!</p>
<p>thanks, i actually applied to SFS RD though...I heard EA and RD were about the same difficulty for Gtown</p>
<p>All the colleges are supposed to be exactly the same- 21%- but of course they aren't. But College and SFS are supposed to be the same, except that the crowd at SFS are supposed to be self-selective (is that the right word?), so it seems a little harder to get into, but if it is or isn't, I really don't know.</p>
<p>Sorry, could you clarify "self selective"? Do you have to apply SFS if
you want that or is it better to apply as undeclared?</p>
<p>I got a B+ in statistics through pure memorization but as I understand it-</p>
<p>Self selective generally means a low standard deviation in admission criteria, meaning that all the candidates end to end are strong. Two instittuions where one has a low standard deviation and one a high standard deviation, (especially when the statistics at the high end are uniformly high for both); the former will be more difficult to enter even if the raw percent accepted is the same.</p>
<p>The choices made in the low standard deviation pool will be tougher and seem more arbitrary. There are fewer applicants with relatively lower credentials who are "easy" to reject.</p>
<p>I suppose you haven't looked at Gtown's application, but you have to apply to SFS. If you apply undeclared, you are put into the College's applicant pool. You can still study government and politics within the College, but students who have applied to SFS know what they want- and I know that this may sound offensive, but it's really not- and so they have the grades to show it. The people who apply to SFS generally want to go into politics and so they have that drive evident in their grades. This whole bit is a generalization and a stereotype, of course, but if you don't believe me, SFS applicants tend to have higher SAT scores, however so slightly, than the rest of the colleges. I posted the EA application stats from 2004 on a another thread, but here it is again:</p>
<p>College SFS MSB NHS Total
2,312 972 543 176 4,003 Applied
494 207 154 53 908 Accepted
21.4% 21.3% 28.4% 30.1% 22.7% Acceptance Rate
97.9 97.3 96.5 93.8 97.2 Percentile Rank
700-770 720-790 660-750 660-720 690-770 SAT-Verbal
690-760 680-760 680-760 650-720 680-760 SAT-Math </p>
<p>I tries to line it up with columns, but it isn't really working. When I put in all the necessary spaces, it just gets rid of them. all the first numbers in a column refer to the College, the second to SFS, etc. I hope this helps, though.</p>
<p>vienna man- did i use the right word? you aren't speaking english, so i am not sure. there is a reason why i never took stats...lol ;)</p>
<p>bottom line, if SFS has a more self selected applicant pool it will be harder to get into than the College even if the raw acceptance percentage is the same.
(The vice-versa applies too and I don't know which is true based on the applicant pools).</p>