How much will being international hurt you?

<p>I'm just wondering in terms of generality: I'm not asking for chancing or anything.. It's just that I heard that Exeter doesn't accept many international students, and I'm sort of wondering if this is true. Is being international make the application process a lot more competitive? </p>

<p>& 1 other question : How did you guys get to know the principal / guidance counselor? I barely know mine, and we have to get recs from them in order to apply.. Luckily, I'm applying next year (long story), but I'm starting high school next year so new principal.. I'm just hoping that I can get to know them a bit in order to actually get a recommendation filled out, but I'm wondering as to how.</p>

<p>Answer one question, or the other, or both! Either way, it'd help so much. Thanks!</p>

<p>Proportionally, they accept just as many. But, if anything, being international helps you for everything other than applying for financial aid where the applicant pool is far more competitive than the American financial aid pool. Schools like Exeter crave international students and, if anything, being international increases your chances of being accepted. At very least, it will make you stand out.</p>

<p>As for the second question, I don't know my guidance counselor at all. I know the principle, however, but only because I currently go to a private school of only 800 kids. This principle here is pretty committed to knowing students, so that's another plus. He, however, is not the one who wrote my "school official" recommendations, so the fact that I knew him didn't end up mattering :/</p>

<p>In most of BS, Internationa students are about 10-15% of the total students. International students do not compete with US citizens. They compete themselves.
It is a separate pool. Internations students have tougher competition, especially Korean students have the toughest competition since they are overrepresented.</p>

<p>How do you know they are in a separate pool erkybk?</p>

<p>yeah i'm wondering about that too..
i'm taiwanese but i currently live in shanghai and i'm applying to those schools.
do they not accept that many international students because there just aren't that many that apply or is it because they're international?</p>

<p>He means your going to be compared to people like you. Koreans will be fighting for however many korean they want that year (probably a rough estimate)....Blacks will porbably be in competition with black so they can have their colored %'s up. Stuff like that.</p>

<p>Although quite a number of the kids from my school in singapore claim to have gone to boarding schools, I can't find any such institution that singapore isn't underrepresented.</p>

<p>mcpicz,
I understand what he means. I just have a hard time believing it, so I asked for his source/how he knows. I mean do you honestly think they have a pile of files labeled "KOREANS".... no way. Everyone is judged on the same standard, separate from other groups. Being a minority (asian included) can only really help or do nothing (in the case of asians). </p>

<p>Obviously all just my opinion, but without a source so is what erkybk wrote which is why I asked for a source.</p>

<p>Ya I guess....Im just saying it sound like simple logic to me. If they say we need about 10 new koreans....and 200 apply after they have around 10..the rest of the Koreans will most likely be denied.
So while they may not make a "Korean" pile, they do keep stats to see whos underrepresented in the class and have a rough number of how many will PROBABLY be admitted. Just what I would think...sounds logical.</p>

<p>Post 69, by edconsultant22, in this thread is relevant to this discussion: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-admissions/366378-approximate-ssat-scores-5.html#post4418077%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-admissions/366378-approximate-ssat-scores-5.html#post4418077&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p>

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You see, each school only takes a few new students from Korea each year. This is because of limits on their visas and because they don't want any language or country to be more than a certain percentage of the school. So considering that, you aren't competing against the American students at all. Andover, for example, might have room for 2 9th grade boys and 2 9th grade girls from Korea. They will receive about 500-1000 applications for those 4 spots. So a lot of it really is LUCK. Many of the Korean candidates are excellent and it just becomes a numbers game.

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I understand what he means. I just have a hard time believing it, so I asked for his source/how he knows. I mean do you honestly think they have a pile of files labeled "KOREANS".... no way. Everyone is judged on the same standard, separate from other groups. Being a minority (asian included) can only really help or do nothing (in the case of asians).

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<p>They are judging the Koreans against each other for a certain number of spots availble for Koreans - they want diversity, they're not going to use up all their "international spots" on Koreans because they want diversity so they want kids from other countries too. I'm pretty positive on this, from conversations with an admissions rep. I really don't think Asians are considered a minority in the boarding school applicant pool - there are tons applying.</p>

<p>HAHAH I LOVE HOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KOREANS HERE :)</p>

<p>for boarding school, it's not necessarily "koreans" labeled in a box. koreans living in america with US residence, and most likely citizenship are considered along with the other US citizens/residents (of course they keep a check so that they're not accepting 50% of their US kids at koreans)
i think koreans who have US citizenship, even if not necessarily residency, have an advantage over those without. just my opinion =/ being a fluent speaker and having lived in the US could be an advantage as well, i guess.</p>

<p>russell peters; youuuuuuuuu don'tttttttttt messssssssss widddddddddd duuuuhhhh KOREANSSSSS</p>

<p>There are tons of asian applying but there are definitely not quotas at boarding school. Again if there were, it would be erm.. racist isn't quite the right word, it would be non-equal opportunity which is what the top boarding schools strive for. There aren't predetermined "Korean spots", well I suppose there could be, I think it's pretty far fetched though. I think Asians ultimately have it just as rough as caucasians, in that race doesn't affect their application process at all.</p>

<p>westcoast,
Russel Peters is just DA MAN. You are now 10x more special because you know who he is =)</p>

<p>^ thanks :D</p>

<p>i'm sorry that i have to disagree with you =/ so would all the other koreans in korea. we seriously feel pressure, because we know not only are we competing with the other international school kids in korea, we are competing with foreign language kids who are reconsidering their pre-college options, people from top-tier elite schools (not as many for middle school though, mostly for high school), and regular public school kids who are the first in their class of 500. in my school, i feel pressure from my FRIENDS because i feel like they overshadow me in boarding school aptitude.
and affirmative action, the kind of "racist" view that has been officially refuted by several colleges (I still don't believe this), is still pretty alive in boarding schools. if you've noticed, for almost EVERY SINGLE boarding school that has been significantly recognized, the international population is roughly 10%, perhaps up to 15%. and of that 10%, not ALL of them can be koreans from korea. consider hong kong, taiwan, china, (and there are less applicants from the following in comparison, but still competitive) philippines, japan, singapore, and malaysia. then again koreans do take up a lot of that 10% so XD but with good reason.</p>

<p>I'm korean but canadian-born so I guess it wouldn't hurt my chances as much as a korean with a korean citizenship?</p>

<p>BTW russell peters is canadian :D</p>

<p>^ YAY FOR CANADA </p>

<p>but it primarily depends on where you live :P but yeah being canadian-born probably lets the admissions officers know that you aren't a typical applicant? i think XD</p>

<p>well I live in toronto, so I'm definately not from the "under-represented part of the country) ex: arctic tundra part... anyways thnx for answering my question :)</p>

<p>westcoast,
alrighty, but to prove that they are actually "racist" (you know what I mean by now), you have to have some statistics which say it is harder to get in as an international student.</p>

<p>hahah aiiite :)</p>

<p>I have a friend in toronto! he's really mean to me and bullies me a lot :P and a friend who used to live in toronto till like january of this year.</p>