<p>They don’t have to have sex with the patient. No way around the truth.</p>
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<li><p>Okay, so the cc: crowd has just discovered that sometimes men pay women for sex and companionship. I find that a bit surprising. This is really just a new form of something very very old. Nothing to see here.</p></li>
<li><p>@Awcntdb, you surprise me on this one. I thought you would be more conservative. You know a lot about this subject and are much more liberal/libertarian than usual. Interesting. Although, I don’t understand conservative/libertarian. I think of conservative as trying to legislate personal morality and libertarian as the opposite. Perhaps you can educate me on my ignorance.</p></li>
<li><p>@madaboutx etal. I am still surprised to see a lot of anti-feminist commentary. To clarify, being against feminism is simply opposing the idea that a woman should have the same rights as a man. Do you really believe that the country has been worse off because women are treated equally here and not like property? Is that really what you mean?</p></li>
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<p>@HarvestMoon1 , I was going to stay out of this thread, but wanted to give you a thumbs up on your post. My wife and I (while I was still working outside the home) worked in investment banks (but not in legal). </p>
<p>Two thoughts come to mind. When I encountered someone who had a mistress and let it be known, I always thought that he had some nerve putting me in a position where, when I met his wife, I would be uncomfortable. </p>
<p>The other thought is one that is beyond rare – me paraphrasing Ross Perot: “if your wife can’t trust you, why should I?”</p>
<p>A hooker/john relationship is like a public golf course. You pay for each round as you play it. Anyone can play there as long as they pay, and the fees are value priced.</p>
<p>The SD/SB relationship is a different product. It’s like membership in a country club. The SD goes there to hang out & not just to play golf. The ambiance matters a lot, and the restrooms will be spotlessly clean. The SD actually wants to be seen there. The country club golf course is afforded a higher status than a public course, because only the rich & powerful have access to play there. It’s not just about golf, it’s about SHOWING OFF. It’s not just sex.</p>
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<p>Absolutely… you’d feel like you are part of the lie.</p>
<p>GMTPlus7, the trick to marketing is to make the customer believe he’s receiving a luxury good. Now, online searches turned up amateur prostitutes’ blogs detailing relationships with multiple providers at a time. </p>
<p>Kind of like a country club renting itself out to a swingers’ convention in the off season.</p>
<p>The other thing I do not understand is the position that the existence of these relationships demonstrates the failure of feminism. Why do these relationships reflect badly on women more than than on the men involved? At least the women are single. I am sure that many of the men aren’t. </p>
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<p>GMTspouse paid off my student loans while we were still dating-- jokes to friends that it was the best investment ever! Lol, all these years I didn’t know I was a sugar baby.</p>
<p>Lol, now the truth came out.</p>
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<p>The description about membership is rather spot on. It is not a per hour thing at all. And it may not even involve sex on a regular basis. I knew one SB who went to Europe to study abroad, and she still received her monthly stipend for the six months without doing jack with the SD. </p>
<p>Yes, SDs do show off the SBs. However, I do know that no guy shows off a hooker. We never here about the hooker visits or see those. Even SDs do not like escorts either, no matter how nice they look. Escorts are just high-priced hookers and distant because neither hookers and escorts want to really be there. SBs, on the other hand, choose to be there because they choose an SD who does particular activities. </p>
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<p>You are picking out the low-end stuff and generalizing. For the vast majority of SDs, part of the contract is exclusivity. Hookers and prostitutes, by definition, are not exclusive.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t let my husband paid for anything. My debt my problem. No sugar baby here.</p>
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<p>There is one relationship difference. Many people who consider themselves serious partners do not make such a separation with money and bills, as finances are part of any relationship for most people. </p>
<p>Two thoughts (beyond those I’ve read through): “Amanda” has been with 50 Sugar Daddies? Eww! How many times with each? Doesn’t she mix them up? That’s a lot of chances for STI’s. </p>
<p>Second, if a Sugar Daddy gives his Sugar Baby a credit card, how much does she charge on it? How often? After every encounter? When tuition is due? To buy clothes for upcoming events? How would you evaluate “worth”?</p>
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We do not have separate account but mentally I know that debt is mine. My husband offered to pay it down by selling his house, I refused to accept. I bought my husband his first car in USA because he didn’t have credit history here yet. I think maybe I was a sugar mommy all along. 
I took a high paying job and eventually paid off my debt. I felt much better that way so if I have an argument with my husband, I don’t ever want to hear my debt was paid off by someone else. My husband is not the type that brought it up either but I guess I’m one of those independent woman(it runs in my family). It’s my self respect. I don’t want anybody to take that away. I feel that it’s an equal partnership so it’s much fairer to deal with everything in our marriage. Not that I think it’s wrong for others, I really don’t care. but it’s not for me.</p>
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<p>That Amanda stuff is not the norm at all. Most SBs do not stay in the arena more than a 2 or 3years and move on. It is a short-term, goal-directed activity. </p>
<p>Be very careful about confusing women who make this a job by seeing multiple men, yet call themselves SBs. The Amanda example is an escort, not an SB. She calls herself an SB, but that is not what she his. The coed SBs see but 1, 2 or 3 SDs over their time and then quit. The real SDs weed those girls out.</p>
<p>Each arrangement is different re how money is dispersed and how much. The tuition ones that I know, the SDs pay the colleges directly. </p>
<p>How do SDs know SBs don’t see multiple men?</p>
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<p>I get your explanation. Thanks.</p>
<p>A distinction I would take is independence does not necessarily mean separate. My Mom was working when she met my Dad. After they got married my Dad thought it important for her to raise us kids. My Mom quit her job to do that. What my dad did was made sure she had her own account with more money than she would have made working. Well, if you met her you would see that she is mrs. independent, yet their finances have not been separate for 52 years since my Dad is responsible for putting money in. She still has that account and the accountant still puts money in as normal.</p>
<p>Everybody is different, not saying mine is the right way. I came from a long line of women working outside the home even while raising lots of kids. My mom was the only not working due to health issue.</p>
<p>EDIT to add, growing up I was told that when my mom was dating my dad, my grandmother would not let accept monetary gift of any value, only letters, poems, flowers, etc…
But my mom side is more well to do, different protocol I guess.</p>
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<p>I’d never buy a high-milage used car…</p>
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<p>How do you know your husband is not seeing other women? How does a college coed know her boyfriend is not sleeping with a girl at his place of employment? No one does really. Obviously, there is trust there. Same with SDs and SBs.</p>
<p>I do not get it that because money is involved then somehow the SB (or SD) automatically cannot be trusted. That is why they interview each other and have several dates before thins are finalized. However, I have no doubt that like in any other relationship there is breaking of the arrangement. </p>