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<p>Even outside the SB world, it is easy to spot women like “Amanda.” I am not on the market, and I can pick up on that a mile away in casual conversation. They become jaded and that is impossible to hide. They try, but it comes out real fast. I am sure serious SDs screen those kinds out rather easily and fast. </p>
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<p>Give him enough rope and eventually…………………….</p>
<p>Seriously, we’re now going to wax on about the serious “trust” between the SD & SB? </p>
<p>Common Sense 101: If he/she cheats with you, you can count on him/her cheating ON you!</p>
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<p>How’s receiving payoff by your fiance of a student loan any different than receiving a blingy engagement ring? I’ll take the loan payoff over a diamond ring any day.</p>
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<p>So I have a question: Must this be an exclusive arrangement or can the SB have more than one SD? Might take some creative scheduling if more than one are in town at a time.</p>
<p>Oh just saw the post about exclusivity. Heaven forbid they might not be monogamous or available at the whim of the SD.</p>
<p>lol, my mom gave my husband a diamond ring. She said not to waste money on blingy diamond but his mom wouldn’t let him do that. So we had to get a big diamond ring in the end. It was not my choice either. But we put that on the credit card and paid it off together.</p>
<p>@Much2learn I feel like maybe you missed my comments. I didn’t say anything negative about feminism. I was critical of the failure of feminism and what it has degraded into.</p>
<p>I think you totally missed my comment on valuing people and not supporting the SB/SD relationships because it’s a form of bondage. I’m against inequality not equality. My comments are often misconstrued because I see things for what they are and not for what the political agenda wants me to see. So, because I go so far off script, I’m misinterpreted. Oh well…</p>
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<p>Both sides are freely able to enter or exit the relationship. It’s only bondage if it includes leather and handcuffs… ;)</p>
<p>You mean my iron maiden doesn’t qualify!!!</p>
<p>How did bondage get into it? These creepy old guys are having way too much fun, there should be a law against it. And decent society must shun them.</p>
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<p>Stipend is the term I have heard a lot of SDs use. Monthly gift is another popular one. And this payment is a guaranteed amount regardless of what they do together and it does not include any additional gifts, trips etc that may take place. It may take the form of paying tuition or paying her apartment lease etc.</p>
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<p>Can some SBs be with more than one SD casually? Yes that happens, just like in the real world. But, like in the real world, they discuss it an it is understood. Casual dating and quasi-dating friendships are nothing new. At least there is more to those than the current soul-less, binge drinking, hook-up culture. Casual daters actually like each each other and have things in common, just like SD-SBs. </p>
<p>Coed SBs are getting a whole lot more out of their relationships than the average college coed. The SB can actually call the SD whenever, say in an emergency, and he will help her on the spot. </p>
<p>Hook-up partners are no where to be found after the hook-up. Hook-up partners do not give you trips, a credit card, and drive you to and from the airport. SDs do this, all the time. It is clear the SB is getting more out of having sex with the SD than the hook-up coeds. That is what makes it attractive and why it is getting more popular. </p>
<p>The SB coeds have done the math and realize why have free sex hook-ups with guys who do not even like me or care, as compared to a guy who actually likes me and will give me stuff too. </p>
<p>The hook-up culture actually makes SDs look much more attractive in terms of the return for sex. I have heard coed SBs say this rather point blank, in some many words. </p>
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<p>Yes, the serious SD-SBs are exclusive, just like any other dating couple. Why is that so tough for people to understand? It is like another relationship where two parties agree to go out and be together. The difference here being that it is understood ahead of time that it will not go beyond this and that the SB will be compensated for her time and energy, just as in any standard business arrangement.</p>
<p>If it is part of the arrangement to be exclusive to an SD and the SB is found out to non-exclusive, .i.e., have another SD on the side, then the same as in the real world: they either work it out or end the arrangement. Checked with my one of my SD sources on this and he says this does happen from time to time with SBs who think they can play a couple guys. He says the SDs just break it off if the SB does not stop the side relationship. The term is “go silent” (stop sending the stipend or agreed to gift), as no SB is worth the trouble beyond that. The answer is to find another SB, just like someone would find another boyfriend or girlfriend if hero she found the person side dating on them. The point is they talk about it and 9 times out of 10, the SD drops the SB. </p>
<p>One thing that I find interesting is SDs and SBs couple a rarely argue. Such couple actually fighting over something is almost unheard of. I do think part if that is there is deep glue between them and thus nothing worth fighting over. If they argue, they just end the arrangement. </p>
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<p>OK, another point missed.</p>
<p>Much less than half of SDs are actually married - closer to 30% are married, last I heard. The majority are single or divorced. Therefore, a super-majority (70%) of SDs are not cheating.</p>
<p>In my case, of there ones I know, 1/2 are married, but that is not the norm. It is a bit high.</p>
<p>Are there SDs who doing it behind their wives’ back? Of course. But I bet no more than the rate of cheating among couples who are married and husbands are sleeping with other females who are not SBs. And let’s not leave out the wives who are cheating on their husbands.</p>
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<p>The average SD I know is 40 - 45, makes $300K+ and what makes them attractive to women is the fact that they are established in their fields and do not come off as creepy. You may want them to be creepy, but that does not make it a reality.</p>
<p>‘Creepy’ is definitely not my terminology, nor is old fart, as has also been used on this thread. My comment was entirely ironic.</p>
<p>This thread has established that simply finding a younger woman to be attractive is sufficient to qualify you as creepy. </p>
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<p>I agree 100%.</p>
<p>The only problem is, in the current hook-up culture, that is exactly how guys view girls too. Except with the hook-up, the guys do not have to pay anything, as they get it free. However, just like a prostitute, the girl still has no meaningful value to the guy. And the girls know this. </p>
<p>A guy in college saying he is going to get laid tonight at the party is no different than a guy saying he is going to get a prostitute tonight - both guys do not care who fills that position (no pun intended) and the girl who fills the bill has no meaningful value to either guy.</p>
<p>Coed SBs have figured this out and the SD simply gives more in return, whereas, the average college hook-up guy gives nothing in return. “Hey, if I am going to be viewed as meaningless anyway, why not get paid for it?” is exactly what these girls are thinking. But the coeds do get a surprise when they realize the SDs do not see them as meaningless, so it raises the SDs’ cache in their eyes. Strange, but true. The SDs come off more sincere because he is upfront and does not leave her hanging like the college hook-up guy. Go figure.</p>
<p>As a society, we reap what we sow in terms of the behavior we turn a blind eye to re college drinking culture and the general young person hook-up culture. There is no free lunch and unintended consequences invariably will result. The coed SB is one such unintended consequence.</p>
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<p>Actually, I knew that, but time ran out to edit after i caught how it read. For the record, I was not addressing you personally.</p>
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<p>I was under the impression that hookers & johns typically negotiate the scope of services & price before the service is rendered. </p>
<p>I’m curious why the services are construed as degrading? Because the services aren’t pro bono? Or is your imagination running wild?</p>
<p>BTW , it was pouring rain after work today and traffic was jammed. So I negotiated scope of services (i.e. delivery of me to my address) and price w a cab driver before he rendered the service. The cab driver had no value to me except for the service I purchased.</p>
<p>I tipped the driver. </p>
<p>A hug would have been nice, but you just walked away.</p>