<p>If this is true, I can think of no justification for it. There isn’t a hook in the world that justifies a 21 ACT getting into Stanford that let’s them maintain a straight face and claim they are all about academics first, whatever else this person has second. Short of holding a raffle that raised millions, and the winner got in no matter what, I’d like to believe this admit isn’t true.</p>
<p>Re: getting into Stanford after getting a 21 on the ACT</p>
<p>Maybe he got a 21 on his first ACT try, then retook it and got a 34 (or took the SAT and got a 2250). Or had a straight A record in large numbers of college courses (more advanced ones than frosh/AP level) taken while in high school. Or got in as a transfer student with a straight A record in two years at a community college.</p>
<p>Although those are all plausible scenarios, they are also about as likely as you or I getting picked to represent the US in ice dancing at the 2014 Winter Olympics.</p>
<p>Yes, like another poster hinted at. It may seem like the end of the world, but most people don’t end up getting into or going to their top choice school. That’s why you have backups. It doesn’t mean you’re not smart at all because you don’t get into a school like Columbia. It’s just what happened. If you don’t get in and still want to go to Columbia, you can always try to transfer.</p>
<p>Shouting abuse is not an effective way to make your point.</p>
<p>the point is not their 2300</p>
<p>Poor grammar does not inspire confidence in your assertion that you are a successful example of the outcome when an Ivy League college accepts a candidate who barely meets admission standards.</p>
<p>I stand by what I said earlier. I believe that a majority, i.e. more than 50%, of students in highly selective universities do not party to the extent that it affects their grades. </p>
<p>Score data for accepted students at some highly selective universities. I do accept that your idea of highly selective and mine may differ.</p>
<p>Students with SAT Scores in the range 700-800 </p>
<p>Caltech CR 83%, Math 99%, Writing 86%</p>
<p>Princeton CR 76%, Math 81%, Writing 81% </p>
<p>Harvard CR 77%, Math 80%, Writing 80%</p>
<p>Given this data I think it is not unreasonable to suppose that over 50% of students in these colleges would have a combined SAT of 2300.</p>
<p>Based on those numbers, the odds that someone has 700+ in all three categories is 50% at Princeton and Harvard, 70% at CalTech, making the odds of 50% of the students having a 2300 highly unlikely.</p>
<p>The 25th percentile in all these colleges are getting 700+ in each of the sections but I’m not going to quibble. My original point was that a candidate like OP who may be accepted with scores which are low in comparison to the students around him/her might find the college experience stressful. I hope OP will be happy and successful wherever he or she finds a niche.</p>
<p>Within reason, the college you attend has a minor effect on your future. More important college choice involoves how you fit in, the general reputation of the college, and the job placement rate (careful with that stat, most schools game it) and/or grad school placement rate.</p>
<p>If you are bright enough to even apply to Columbia, you will probably get into a great school. Don’t overlook top public colleges, you will meet a better set of people to prepare you for the real world. You will not be coddled and told everyday how ‘smart’ you are for going to (fill in the name of a prestigious college here) university. </p>
<p>It is YOUR life, not anyone else’s. And remember, you MAY make a bad college choice. If so, move on to somewhere else if you do. Many of the happiest people I know took a winding path though life. </p>
<p>I am not dissing Columbia, from what I have seen, it is a great school. But, so are a LOT of other colleges. And, after your first job, no one cares where, or even if, you were educated. Look at all the billionaires who either dropped out, or never attended college.</p>
<p>Jaxi, sorry to hear it. I admire your courage in coming on here, because I find many of the members highly sensitive and critical, offering blunt advice and judgments with an unearned tone of self assurance. We parents know you are stressed, that tempers can fray, but I am tired of the negativity I often see here.</p>
<p>S got deferred by Princeton.
100% HISPANIC.<br>
SAT CR 730, M 770, W 720
4.0 GPA - 4.85 weighted
5’s on all 5 AP’s (taking 6 this year - so far all A’s)
Varsity swimmer all 4 years, varsity WP player 3 years - Captain</p>
<p>I’m very happy that he’s not allowing this deferral derail him. He’s focusing on the other schools and I’m sure he’ll end up where he belongs. </p>
<p>Jaxi keep your chin up, enjoy your Holidays and go on!! Wish you the best:)</p>
<p>Deferred at Cornell while all of my other friends were accepted at their top choices… but I think the worst part about it isn’t that you didn’t get into your dream school - it’s that you feel like you’re going to get deferred/rejected by EVERY other selective college on your list. I for one, no longer feel any hope for UMich, Georgia Tech, Stanford, Brown or Berkeley. </p>
<p>If you do in fact apply to a less selective college before like someone advised in one of the posts earlier, I think that you should choose a college you’d be perfectly content going to. I also applied to Case Western since it had no application fee and no supplement… and even though I got accepted there with a good scholarship, it didn’t really help dealing with my deferral at Cornell - because I didn’t really want to go. </p>
<p>Imo, if you want to be able to accept your rejection, apply to a few schools that are close to as good as your dream school for your major. One of my friends applied to Cornell ED and UIUC… he wasn’t at all disheartened by his cornell (his top choice) rejection since he already had UIUC going for him. That’s the easiest way to deal with it - just get in somewhere almost equally as good. And this way you won’t feel like you’ll get rejected at your other schools as well.</p>
<p>Truust, it is wrong to assume a spillover - each school has its own tracks they put prospective students into. My daughter was rejected at Brown, but got into U Cambridge, her dream school.</p>
<p>Read that excellent article posted by vonlost.</p>