<p>If you're like me and it's hard to get up early for school, jobs, etc., check this article out. It's mostly common sense but it helped me a bit.</p>
<p>And how about that "polyphasic sleep" where one sleeps in 2 hour cycles?</p>
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Ive learned that the longer it takes me to get up, the more likely I am to try to sleep in. So I dont allow myself to have conversations in my head about the benefits of sleeping in once the alarm goes off. Even if I want to sleep in, I always get up right away.
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YES! That is absolutely correct for me. I've had really bad problems with waking up since 2 years ago. It was so bad that I missed the first couple of hours of school, like once a week!.</p>
<p>I've learnt that my conscienciousness flickers to awake-mode at 7am everyday...... but I used to say - Ok in 1min I'll get up. (and then get up 2 hrs later)
But I've changed that.. When I first wake up, I make myself sit up. Kinda like frankenstein when he gets up from his metal bed thingee.
Usually, I just sit there for minutes with my eyes closed. But it's so much better than lying down with eyes closed.</p>
<p>I kinda do the polyphasic sleep around about exam times - but mine's a bit modified..</p>
<p>My sleep is scrwed up completely. Falling asleep, waking up</p>
<p>This is how people get 48 hr days! I thought I was also destined to never be a morning person either. if im online and having a good conversation, why go to sleep? who cares if it's 4 am? or 8 am? i still do it, even when net access at my home is shut off. (i guess parents couldnt take it anymore..)</p>
<p>I like the idea he proposed (he said he had the same above problem with poker nights in college), but I think I need to work on my self-discipline. I'm about to read his self-discipline article now. I tried a method someone told me--putting a piece of food you're REALLY hungry for in front of you and staring it down until you don't want to eat it anymore . . . and then I just find something else to eat. I was never a delicate food person anyway, i could probably live on cereal.</p>
<p>I'll try this and see if it works . . . he said after a while that you couldn't ever go back, but I have a feeling I will :p</p>
<p>PolyPhasic Sleep, that looks promising too. I think that'd work better also because you get more night time, which I'm already used to doing. I remember when I'd come home from school, sleep till around 7 pm, and then stay up till 2/3 am, or later if I needed to get more work done. It worked out great because it's much more quiet, a lot less interruptions. but my parents....so freakish..it's like if i don't do everything their way, im screwed for life.</p>
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<p>Emotionally I feel incredible. I cant fully credit this to polyphasic sleep because I often had this feeling even before then. But Im exceedingly happy. It feels more like a physical sensation as opposed to feeling good for some logical reason, as if my body is just producing more endorphins than it used to. Sometimes I feel so terrific that I think I might explode from holding too much energy inside.
neat! And this was cool too: Vietnam</a> man handles three decades without sleep. freaking asians! seems that they can do anything.</p>
<p>Holy crap.... that Vietnamese guy is freaking amazing. I wish I could do that.</p>
<p>it's not necessarily a good thing to have that kind of insomnia. there are a lot of central nervous system disorders that can literally cause you to have such severe insomnia that you die of sleep deprivation. these people can go decades without sleep, but many will die from it. apparently, this vietnamese guy may be either a freak exception or a sufferer whose time has not yet come :/</p>
<p>It usually takes normal people 8 days without sleep to start hallucinating...</p>
<p>I couldn't imagine staying awake for longer than two or three days. I was seeing hallucinations of giant crabs revolving around my head after being up for 40+ hours last summer</p>
<p>What a boring life for this guy.</p>
<p>That's a very interesting article, I found myself procrastinating and reading a lot of his posts... thanks for the link.</p>
<p>I hate sleep.</p>
<p>However - the problem with the Uberman schedule or ANY polyphasic schedule - the world is monophasic. If you have to work a 14 hour shift, you are skipping naps and that makes you CRASH.</p>
<p>i didn't read the whole post b/c i'm lazy, but i took a class on sleep with dr. william dement (google him) and he knows his ish. he came up with REM and NREM sleep and if i learned one thing in his class, it's that you can never get "TOO MUCH" sleep, which the dude that wrote the article suggested you can. most people have a "sleep debt" that accumulates linearly. so if you need 8 hours a night of sleep, and you get 7 hours a night for a week, you have 7 hours of sleep debt. the only way to erase sleep debt is to physically sleep those extra hours. this is why some people don't understand why they still feel tired in the morning even when they're getting 8 hours. it's b/c of their sleep debt.</p>
<p>anyway...like i said, i only read up to that part of the article and stopped. laziness is a biatch. i know that our clock dependancy is, in large part, controlled by light (i forget the exact term). an easy way to make your clock naturally tell you to go to sleep earlier and wake earlier is too go outside early in the morning. so right when you get up, (or if you want to purposely get up earlier), go outside in the sun b/c your body responds to the light. there are also special LED lamps that do this. and the opposite happens if you apply light (LED lamps) at night...you then move your clock forward. exercise in the morning also makes you go to bed earlier. exercise at night makes your clock tell you to go to sleep later.</p>
<p>i knew a lot more helpful stuff a couple months ago when i took the class. but time and summer heat has apparently fried my brain.</p>
<p>also, the polyphasic thing sounds pretty ridiculous. dement never mentioned it. humans need a certain amount of sleep, and if you are awake more often, it makes sense that you'll need more sleep. and the stage of REM in which you have vivid dreams doesn't mean you are sleeping better in terms of getting more rest. in fact, dement mentioned that it is not known for sure if REM is even more "resting" than the earlier stages of sleep in which you are not dreaming. this is b/c although you are in deep sleep and your body is paralyzed, your brain is most active during this time and you must not only imaging you're in your dream, but also "dream" up the situation, which can take just as much energy as the other stages in which you aren't dreaming.</p>
<p>i think this dude just needs a long a ss nap.</p>
<p>It's very simple: early to bed, early to rise. I'm a morning person -- usually up by 6:30 a.m. -- and it is because I hit the sack around 10 p.m. (often earlier to read a bit before sleeping).</p>
<p>haha, if sleep debt needs to be paid off to feel well rested, then i need to take a few months off :P</p>
<p>do i have to pay interest on this debt? if so, what is the rate?</p>
<p>Just go to bed early and rise early instead of wasting your time on all this crap.</p>
<p>no interest. haha. if you have a debt of 6 hours, you have to somehow sleep 6 more hours. </p>
<p>we had to keep a sleep log for like 7 or 8 weeks and my debt was like 80 hours or something. yeah, i'm def making that up now. the log format itself was pretty intense. i can send it to anyone that wants it. it's just an excel file, but it's pretty detailed and helpful as far as tracking how much sleep you get, how much time you're in bed, how you feel at diff times of the day, etc...</p>
<p>Can you get a sleep surplus that you can use in times of need when you're not getting enough? Also, if I'm 80 hours in debt, why am i not able to sleep 80 consecutive hours and wake up feeling refreshed?</p>
<p>My sleep patterns for the last 2 months:
awake till 1am, sleep off till 8am.
awake till 2am, sleep off till 8am
awake till 3am, sleep off till 10am
awake till 6am, sleep till 1pm.
Pretty soon I'll be awake all night and asleep all day.</p>
<p>exrunner, i don't think it's possible to get a sleep surplus simply b/c your body will stop needing sleep once your debt is 0. i don't think you can force yourself to go to sleep it your body is completely rested, interms of having as much sleep as it needs. you can't sleep 80 hours because 1. your body probably finds food more important than sleep after a while. </p>
<p>the main reason is CIRCADIAN RHYTHM that's found in all living things. a human is a little over 24 hours (24 hr and 11min or something like that) it cues the body when to sleep and wake up every 24 hours. i'm sure you can google or wikipedia it and learn more...or take a quarter on sleep and dreams at stanford!</p>