OP has not said if the student has asked the teacher what her mistakes were? For example, the teacher can tell the student you used the wrong formula so all the questions pertaining to X were wrong.
Did the student ever ask the teacher for help understanding what went wrong? Or did the student only ask for the Canvas report?
I donât find this odd at all. Some classes are still graded on a curve. The numerical score a student receives really has to be taken in the context of what the whole class scored.
Why do you need this printed out? Where I am, you might be able to see this with the teacher and one other staff member present, but you would never be given a copy or allowed to have this to yourself with no one else present.
Too many exams and questions are âpiratedâ this way.
For the recordâŠI didnât mean to check the thumbs down hereâŠand I canât seem to make it go away!
Totally agree!
This.
I am a student and my school uses Canvas. Mistakes on test grades usually happen with fill-in type answers but sometimes you will get a couple on a multiple choice test - usually not enough to make a huge difference in a grade unless there are very few questions on the test. So she might get enough points for a B-. The best strategy is not to ask for the test itself or question the grade but to ask if there are any particular concepts that you missed. This way they will look at your test and figure out for themselves if there is an error on the test. What was her grade going into the final? How much does the final impact her grade?
From a legal point of view, any paper with a studentâs name on it is a student record, and students and parents have the right to see it and get a copy of it. Itâs an interesting legal question as to whether the school can separate the questions on the test from the answers which the student provided.
Frankly this sounds like a student record to me and the OP has a right to get a copy of it. But Iâm no lawyer, so it seems to me that itâs in order to pose this question to a lawyer who practices educational law.
Thanks, the Canvas report is the auto-graded summary of # correct on the multiple choice
eg. There are multiple ways/ versions of letting students review their exams, and see for themselves the scores they were given by the teacher are correct.
The full report would have contained the questions and answers as graded by computer - okay, I get that if they donât want the students to KEEP and bring home the copy because it might be confidential, itâs fine.
IMO, at least show the students in person, just take the papers away after theyâve seen them.
BUT right now, given the score was a direct C and my daughter insists she didnât think she did that bad & I trust her when she tells me she thinks the grading is off, & in this context, the teacher canât even produce / show us the abbreviated Canvas report which would have merely confirmed the automatically scored # correct, I agree with my daughter in that something is not right with this
eg. If my daughter had been speeding, even the cops would have evidence. They canât just âsayâ verbally she was doing 50 miles over speed limit without any evidence whatsoever and penalize her, ie. why should she suffer on account of this when the evidence by way of the Canvas report is available. Just show us the abbreviated version with the score printout. Thatâs the radar in this situation, they canât just say âoh the radar said she were doing 50 miles over speed limitâ without offering any proof when we are precisely questioning their measurement at this point
But if the teacher made a mistake in coding the answer key, just seeing the Canvas report isnât going to show that, will it?
Also, did this lower her overall grade in the course at all? If it didnât, I can see why the admin is not pushing for a huge investigation into this.
Yes, the OP has been asked this numerous times and has yet to address this question.
She thinks she wasnât treated right. She doesnât think itâs possible she earned a C though. Why is there a âlikelihoodâ that the teacher will continue her insidious actions? Why would this teacher and the administrators run the risk of what the OP suspects? What support is there that teachers and the administrators are targeting the demographic that the OPâs daughter is in? Because they didnât provide a printout?
Maybe other lessons are being taught here: Assuming that the teacher is wrong. That she has it in for kids like OPâs daughter. That if a student doesnât get the grade they want, they should assume foul play. Or that if the administration supports the teacher, they are guilty. Or that if parents make unfounded assumptions, it is right for them to doggedly pursue the issue until they get what they want, even if the child didnât necessarily earn it. And that a C is unacceptable.
The usual course of events when a student is sure something is graded incorrectly is to ask the teacher. Sometimes the teacher gets it wrong. I think almost everyone here has a student who has experienced this. The overwhelming majority of teachers are reasonable when thereâs been a mistake and they fix it.
Students should absolutely advocate for themselves. The student did that, which is great, but wasnât satisfied with the response. The parent stepped in, which is also fine, involving administrators. Parents should get involved when itâs warranted. But after twice confirming the grade, the family still isnât happy with the response, and believe the school must be lying and covering up a targeted attack against a certain demographic.
It is never wrong to advocate for yourself. Itâs the right thing to do. But itâs wrong to assume guilt until proven innocent, based on mere speculation.
Thank you to all the educators out there. Sometimes your job is thankless.
At my college students often dont get to see their tests even if they meet with the teacher.
Why? Because for $50 you can buy glasses or pens that video record. Or the students who have secretly recorded talking questions through with professors who later type it up and distribute.
Cheating and misconduct are increasing and teachers all over are cracking down.
At some colleges, instructors make new tests each time they teach the course, and old tests are openly available through student organizations (equalizing access to them). Example:
(Thus I said at my college.)
A possible inference from the above differs from the seemingly intended implication. The âmajority of the answers rightâ (in contrast to, for example, âall of the answers rightâ or ânearly all of the answers rightâ) sounds more like C-level preparation than A-level preparation.
Why doesnât the student just meet with the teacher and say hey, I thought I was really prepared for this test. Will you help me understand what concepts I missed? This will allow the teacher to help the student move forward with better understanding of the material. Just seeing a printout to âproveâ something (again not sure what) will not do this.
The parent says this was a final exam. Where I amâŠfinals are either given the very last week of classesâŠOR during a finals week after classes end.
Is school even still in session?
Iâm amazed that a teacher isnât required to sit down with a student and go over an exam if the student is questioning how their grade was determined.
It isnât the studentâs fault the teachers/school districts have abandoned hand grading of exams printed on actual paper and now use computer scored tests that are stored on a remote server somewhere.
And no I donât trust a teacher or school administrator who is saying âbelieve usâ everything is correct. We are refusing to share any actual info with you but you should just take it on faith that weâre right.
My kids havenât been in HS for a few years but I never would have accepted that answer if there was a question about the grading of an assignment or exam and my kid was getting the brush off. If my kid did the work, I expect the teacher to take the time to review how the grade was achieved.
Sorry this scenario doesnât pass the smell test. And yes teachers should be held accountable if their actions are questionable. Teachers are not sacrosanct or infallible.
I absolutely agree with you. The primary educational goal is student learning. It seems the teacher is more interested in defending his grading than ameliorating the student understanding of the material.