<p>Actually, most management consultants and investment bankers don't have CPAs.</p>
<p>well it's true that UCLA isn't good enough.
In terms of networking of people and name brand (?), UCLA falls behind those of top elite class private schools.
In Ivy student's perception, UCLA is just a joke.
Even Berkeley would be a joke to them.
And sure, McKinsey may recruit in Anderson, but their primary choices are Ivy students. UCLA is like a 2nd choice.
You know how many people are recruited to join McKinsey in Wharton? more than 50. Here? I dunno, but i highly doubt it's any more than 5. 10 at most.</p>
<p>You just gotta admit, UCLA is a very good school, but not good enough.</p>
<p>Wharton is the #1 Business School. How about you stop bashing UCLA, show some school spirit, and prepare for the future. You obviously did not get into Wharton. If you did, you would not be here. A lot of people here are very proud to be here and turned down some Ivies to come here.</p>
<p>UCLA is no different than UVA or U of Michigan. You don't hear people bashing their schools about recruitment. UCLA might send less people to Wall Street because it is a West Coast school. Well UCLA is in Los Angeles, the 2nd largest city in the US. Almost every major investment bank has an office in Los Angeles and guess what? They recruit top UCLA grads.</p>
<p>UCLA is a very good school, it's no Wharton but neither is Cornell or Dartmouth or Brown. By the way, do you think a Wharton degree is a guaranteed ticket to investment banking and consulting? If you are so smart and talented and think you deserve Wharton then fine. Get a 4.0 or a 3.7 at UCLA. If not, then you were never good enough to get in. So suck it up and stop taking it out on UCLA.</p>
<p>Earlier, you said,
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UCLA just seem like a so-so school.
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Now you're saying,
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UCLA is a very good school
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<p>THEN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, YO. </p>
<p>Seriously. </p>
<p>It seems to be good enough for lots and lots of people. If you're not one of them, figure out whatever the hell IS good enough for you and GO THERE. </p>
<p>You seem to care an awful lot what people at ivies think, which really is unfortunate. But seriously, if you really want to work for that particular company, and you don't think you can shine brightly enough here, go to Wharton.</p>
<p>/ ETA- Wouldn't it be so much more rewarding to have actually earned a place in that company through hard work and been one of the five or ten, instead of one in a group of 50 who probably didn't need to do as well? </p>
<p>It seems like you're not satisfied with the fact that you'll actually have to work your ass off at UCLA. If you were, you would decide to do really well and get into that company, instead of *****ing and moaning about how a school that YOU APPLIED TO AND CHOSE TO ATTEND isn't good enough for you because a spot isn't guarenteed.</p>
<p>haha, he doesn't even go to UCLA yet.</p>
<p>He goes to community college.</p>
<p>To the OP: Seriously tone it down a bit, I've never met anyone at community college who has come across as remotely arrogant as you have in this thread.</p>
<p>So then this whole discussion is for naught?</p>
<p>I'm ammending my advice:</p>
<p>To the OP- Don't even apply. Go to SC, or Wharton, or wherever you can get in. If UCLA isn't good enough for you, stop wasting everyone's time.</p>
<p>I worked my ass off at a CC to get into UCLA (and into a program that's significantly more selective than econ) and it's really annoying to hear that "it's simply not good enough" because you have some love affair with the notion of attending a prestigious school (which, ironically, is what most of the world considers UCLA to be). It's clear that you don't appreciate what UCLA has to offer you, so why are you even considering it?</p>
<p>"If UCLA isn't good enough, then what is USC?"</p>
<p>"Only because people from SC are used to people putting their school down.
Except in SC's case it's usually warranted."</p>
<p>Ahhh! the 1-2 punch! =)</p>
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well it's true that UCLA isn't good enough.
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<p>uhhhhhh... okay if you already have pre-conceived notions about UCLA, or developed them simply based on where mckinsey recruits, then why the heck are you asking us if UCLA is good enough?</p>
<p>the posters here obviously think so and have provided solid arguments, yet they seem to just go into one ear and out the other. </p>
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In Ivy student's perception, UCLA is just a joke.
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<p>my friend transfered from UCLA to harvard last year (not because of harvard but because he wanted to be close to his gf in boston). when he tells other harvard students that he transfered from UCLA, he said all of them respected UCLA. but i guess my friend hangs around harvard students who are realistic and not elitist snobs. elitist snobs think UCLA is a joke though. </p>
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And sure, McKinsey may recruit in Anderson, but their primary choices are Ivy students. UCLA is like a 2nd choice.
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<p>if true, then so are yale and cornell (johnson).</p>
<p>dhl3,</p>
<p>i'm not sure if you're a UCLA student or not, but if you are, you have to change your attitude. 3 pieces of advice if you goal is a top consulting firm:</p>
<p>1) confidence. that includes confidence about your own college and academic background. you need to respect all the positive qualities of UCLA (you're in luck cuz there's A LOT OF THAT!) or else other people (like your clients) won't respect you. </p>
<p>2) case studies. practice many of them. it doesn't matter where you went if you can't solve them. and being able to solve them can help "overcome" where you went for college. </p>
<p>3) that it's possible to work for a top consulting firm from UCLA. it's more about the person than the school he/she went to. no college, major, or courses are really going to prepare you for consulting. see #1 and #2 for details.</p>
<p>I really just feel like the OP would fit in really well at USC.</p>
<p>Which speaks volumes about his character.</p>
<p>yes, the OP DESERVES to be at USC.</p>
<p>Most of you are asking me, "well if you are so contemptous about UCLA's quality, why the hell are you even considering UCLA, why don't you just go to Wharton?"</p>
<p>The answer is: "Yes, I AM planning on going to Wharton, for graduate school. I never planned on staying in UCLA all the way to graduate. That will just ruin my plan."</p>
<p>But as of now, I know my academics do not match the TOP QUALITY of the ivies, so I have no choice but to choose easier schools, such as UCLA. UCLA and UCB, and MAYBE UCSD are the only universities that i consider "GOOD" in the UC system. others, I don't really care for. And being California resident myself, I want to stay within California border for the cheap tuition and all. So that's why I'm considering UCLA. Stanford, I know my academics can't match that.</p>
<p>Regarding my earlier statement, I said UCLA is a so-so school COMPARED to all the ivies and better private schools, but at national level, it's considered good. ok, there are 3000+ universities total, but really, out of those, top 50 are what i consider "above average universites" and below them are universities where you can get in with GPA of 3.0 or so.</p>
<p>And as for business, East Coast has WAYYYYY more opportunities. They have all the major business/financial firms (think New York) and it's obvious they recruit from East Coast schools.</p>
<p>I'm not really talking about undergrad program (except internship).
Maybe I misphrased it. I meant to say "ANDERSON isn't good enough, not UCLA undergraduate program." It's not low quality. Heck, it's one of the top 10 business school in the nation. But McKinsey looks for the elites among the elites, and I'm sorry to tell you, but Anderson isn't really the "elite among the elites". </p>
<p>So it's pretty much a guaranteed deal that I won't go to Anderson. As for Haas of berkeley, I MAY consider it, but big chance that I won't apply there either.</p>
<p>not to be mean or anything, but dude, you're still at a community college, is that considered elite? not many people who start out at cc go on to wharton. </p>
<p>With your attitude of oh, this isn't elite enough, or that isn't good enough, it seems you'll never be happy with your accomplishments, even if you did make it to mckinsey somehow.</p>
<p>Funnyman, I NEVER EVER said that the college im going right now is better than UCLA. I never said it was an elite class level college. Heck, as you said, it's a community college. .</p>
<p>As for you statement of "not many people who start out at cc go on to wharton", NOT TRUE at all. People from cc are usually the ones that thrive at UCs with their high GPAs and EC, and gets special awards in graduation. Heck, one of my cousin went to cc and transferred over to UCB, and she graduated with Top GPA and earend some speical award. I dun remember what the name was, but it had the word "kum" in it. X)</p>
<p>so never underestimate the ability of a cc transfer student.</p>
<p>okay, did she end up at a highly ranked biz school? UCB and UCLA are the same thing, and a high GPA depends on the major.</p>
<p>", did she end up at a highly ranked biz school"</p>
<p>no, because she wasnt a business major.
She was actually a bio-med.</p>
<p>She ended up in Johns Hopkins.</p>
<p>then good for her, if you think you have what it takes to make it to a "elite" biz school, then don't come here and keep on asking is UCLA elite enough? You keep on saying that UCLA or UCB are the best schools you can get into, then that's that, no need to push the topic further. You know what you want to accomplish, you don't need to share it entirely with the world. Because I think it's quite rude that you keep on putting down UCLA.</p>
<p>damn.. UCLA people are so short-tempered...</p>
<p>"then good for her, if you think you have what it takes to make it to a "elite" biz school, then don't come here and keep on asking is UCLA elite enough"</p>
<p>I think I already answered that I'm not planning on going to Anderson.</p>
<p>damn... cc people are so annoying.</p>
<p>so you're not coming for undergrad?</p>