<p>Except that would be lying, because transcripts aren’t sent with the expectation of receiving data in return. Transcripts are sent because that is part of the function of schools in the particular state. They are sent regardless of whether the student intends to provide something in return to the school or not.</p>
<p>Same goes with guidance counseler recommendations. They are provided as a function of the school rather than with the expectation of something in return.</p>
<p>I’m still thinking it’s a ■■■■■ post and the incident is hypothetical rather than real. Schools can’t fine students who refuse to provide the high school with a list of colleges they got accepted to. After all, many students don’t apply to colleges at all. What do they get fined for - not reporting their employer, position, and starting salary to the high school?</p>
<p>This is not a ■■■■■ post! I could not make this up. This is first-hand knowledge; I read the communication from GC to student. Truth is stranger than fiction. And nearly all of our kids apply to some kind of college.</p>
<p>There have been a lot of good reasons mentioned as to why the information can and should be shared. One reason in particular is the school profile: our profile has graduation rate, % receiving local diploma, % receiving regents diploma, % receving Advanced regents diploma, regents and advance regents with honors diploma, 2/4 year college acceptance rates, list of college acceptances.</p>
<p>I do not agree that there should be fines and threats attached to providing the information.</p>
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<li>At minimum the college, where your child will ultimately attend will ask the high school for a final transcript as proof that your child successfully completed high school. If the school does not know where the kid is going how can they send the information? We mail out final transcripts on the last day of school directly to the college. Our buliding will be closed over the summer for renovations so any thing not sent out by the last day of school will not be sent out until we return to school in the fall after labor day. Also once your child graduates, they are a former student and your GC may say that you need to get your transcripts from the records department (which could be a pain). If the college does nto have the information, it can and will delay your child registering for classes.</li>
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<p>2.Things happen, plans change. I have seen on a number of occassions that a student will chose a school, something happens between may 1 and the time the student leaves or college and student cannot attend original school. That same school that you don’t want to give information to will now have to advocate to get your child a seat in the fall.</p>
<p>Most high schools just have students fill out a Senior Survey. Instead of messing around with fines and taking away graduation (really?!), they just use the Senior Survey to send your final, end-of-the-year transcript to your college. It gives a great incentive to comply but it’s not heavy-handed and boorish.</p>
<p>I can see where this information would be useful to the high school, but trying to strongarm the information out of students with threats of fines/denial of graduation is just wrong. If they passed out a little one page survey just before school let out, most kids would probably fill it out without a second thought. But if a kid chose to keep his answers private, that should be respected.</p>
<p>At the least, the student truly does have to let the HS know where he/she is matriculating so that the final senior year transcript can be sent!</p>
<p>But honestly, to not give this information to the HS seems wrong in my opinion. The school’s profile lists college acceptances of its graduates. It is information a HS needs and is useful for those who come next, just like current kids benefitted from an accurate school profile when they applied to college. I would want my kids’ HS School Profile to be accurate.</p>
<p>Senior Survey at our local HS is voluntary. No one is required to give the information. I really don’t think what your school is doing is legal.</p>
<p>That said, we had no problem with D filling out the survey. Hopefully that information is helpful to a future student.</p>
<p>I think that privacy concerns have some legitimacy, particularly if there are not that many applicants, and it is relatively easy to figure out who had what scores/GPA from Naviance. Also where there has been a history where college outcome information for individual students was leaked by district…</p>
<p>I don’t see any legal obligation for the student to disclose future plans or opportunities to a school they were required to attend by law. Fining students and threatening to take away graduation makes this a legal obligation.</p>
<p>The information about your future opportunities is private information for the student and student’s family and does not need to be shared with the school. </p>
<p>There are countless good reasons to share the information but also countless reasons not to as well, and that’s a personal choice.</p>
<p>To play devil’s advocate . . . the kid could ask for X number of sealed high school transcripts, then mail them off himself. I did this with my high school/community college transcripts because I like to put delivery confirmation on the envelopes so I can track them and make absolutely sure they aren’t lost in the mail. (I can also tell the colleges the exact date they received my transcript if I have to call them later.)</p>
<p>Just tell them where to send the final transcript. You have no obligation to give them any other information. If this is a private HS, they have probably lost lots of future donations from alumni. If a public HS, tell them where to do and cc the school superintendent.</p>
<p>Do you agree that at a minimum you should report where you are matriculating even if you don’t report all results? I mean your transcript does need to be sent in June. Also, a school profile lists which colleges graduates have attended or been admitted to and does not point to individuals. That is important stuff on a school profile that gets sent with an applicant’s transcripts that help an adcom interpret the transcript in context.</p>
<p>bigtrees, I don’t think this situation is analogous to a job and their knowing where you work next. The company doesn’t need that information at all. A high school maintains a school profile to send to colleges with transcripts. Many school profiles list where their graduates go to college or have been admitted the previous year or two. If the HS can’t obtain that information, it hurts the school profile for students in the next cycle. It is not just to the school’s benefit but for all students who come next. I, for one, as a parent, really cared that our school’s profile was accurate. In fact, we checked it and soooo many things on it were inaccurate, false, or outdated, that I pointed out all these things to the principal who did a major revision of the HS Profile to reflect the real information. The erroneous information was gonna hurt applicants. </p>
<p>Most colleges I know do require an end of year transcript…to prove you earned a diploma, not to mention didn’t get flunking grades, etc.</p>
<p>Just went back and looked at old emails to see what S2’s school did. They were drawing names for gift cards for students who got their Naviance data in by a specific date.</p>
<p>I have no problem sharing the info. We were able to take advantage of the data in the two college searches at our house, so I am fine with passing it on. Both my kids were outliers, so their odd data points will help fill in the gaps for other students.</p>
<p>^^^That’s the thing…if one’s own kids benefitted from such data about previous applicants from that high school, it would behoove one to provide such information to the high school for those who come next. As I wrote previously, I cannot imagine ever NOT letting our GC know our two kids’ results. </p>
<p>I don’t like the idea of fines or consequences, however.</p>
<p>I have no problem with providing this information voluntarily. But I do have a problem with a public high school that says you can’t walk in graduation unless you provide them with personal information. </p>
<p>I also have told employers where I was going during my exit interview, and let my high school know where I was going to college, and told my college where I work and what my starting salary is. I don’t mind voluntarily.</p>
<p>But should the school threaten to disallow the student to walk in graduation or withhold transcripts unless the students wants to provide the information? Clearly no.</p>
<p>Most colleges that I know of do not require a high school transcript. You are on the east coast, I’m on the west coast, so perhaps it’s region specific. (Yes, I know the elite colleges require them but the vast majority of high school graduates do not go to Ivy league caliber schools.)</p>
<p>Heck, there were a lot of parents of absent-minded professors at S1’s HS who were happy to know S1’s results. They all assumed he had a 4.0 UW – the relief on their faces when they learned his GPA was palpable. I heard “There’s hope for my kid!” more than once. A lot of these kids spent their after-school energies doing self-directed programming/math/science projects for fun rather than doing Stat homework.</p>