<p>Heres a little bit about me: I’m an Asian American (South Korean), and I live in Texas. Fort Worth, to be exact. My parents aren’t very wealthy at all; they do non-profit work. As a result, I’m pretty much going to NU for free. UT is going to cost me about $5,000 a year in loans (after financial aid). </p>
<p>I’m looking to getting a job as either an investment banker, or a financial analyst after I graduate from college. Here are the things I consider really important about a school, in this order:</p>
<li>Prestige in my Major (Economics/Business/Finance). And Overall prestige.</li>
<li>Ability to get recruited after graduating from College (great internships, starting salary, etc)</li>
<li>Friendly, supportive, interesting students on campus. Competitive, smart classmates, but cut-throats are a HUGE turn-off. I want to avoid a school overpopulated with rich, snobby kids as well.</li>
<li>Professors who actually spend time teaching their undergraduate courses. </li>
<li>A workload that is moderate, and bearable–I WANT to actually go out and enjoy myself AT LEAST on the weekends. Party at least 1 time a week. </li>
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<p>Thank yall so much for your responses, I need to make my final decision soon. I know that Northwestern AND UT-BHP are very prestigious, I just can’t choose which one!!! Thank you for yall’s feedback! </p>
<p>Also, other facts: I LOVE SNOW! I love winter sports, and I totally want to do intramural sports wherever I go for college. Also, it may seem tht I am materialistic, and I try not to be, but I just want to provide for my parents when they are older and retire. They don’t have ANYTHING in savings, because they’ve done non-profit their entire lives! I just want to help them live comfortably, I’m sorry if my “obsession” with job placement may seem…out of place. haha.</p>
<p>There's no contest. It's Northwestern, for every single reason you listed. UT is a great school, but Northwestern has a national reputation. And snow, snow, snow. </p>
<p>mhmm...imma call them and tell them that i wanna visit, but i can't if they don't offer us money to go. your a genius ;) </p>
<p>so do you think that the workload is reasonable?</p>
<p>To give you an idea of my academic ability, I scored 2310/2400 On the SAT I's, and Im rank'ed 3% at a moderately competitive HS. IB Diploma Candidate. IDK, clearly Im not a genius, but I'm pretty smart. I want to go and party every so often, but I can't do that, if im bogged down with studying all the time.</p>
<p>What is your opinion? Could I manage the workload and still go out?</p>
<p>At first impression, the decision appears to be quite easy--Northwestern University. But, if you really want to major in business, then Texas business honors is the clear choice. NU is one of the most expensive and academically demanding universities in the country. Undergraduate economics is among the top two or three programs in the country at Northwestern & there are joint certificate programs with the Kellogg graduate business school. Prestige is far greater at Northwestern, but so is the workload. If you want to relax & party a lot during your undergraduate years, then do not go to Northwestern.(Although there is an active fraternity scene at NU, along with easy access to Evanston--which is a very upscale city--and Chicago.) You really cannot make a wrong choice so long as you major in business & stay in business honors at UT. Good luck!</p>
<p>Both are good schools, and you'll get great opportunities from either. </p>
<p>But when you say that you want to support your parents, does that mean that you want to return and work for a firm in Texas when you're older? If so, staying and attending UT may be better for networking. UT definitely has the regional advantage.</p>
<p>Good grief. People do not work 24/7, even at NU. The fraternity scene is very active, and there are lots of people involved in lots of extracurriculars. Plus, lots of students with diverse interests and specialties. IMO, you can't go wrong.</p>
<p>Even if you go to NU, you can return to TX if you want. But while NU is well-known in all regions of the country as a tip-top school, the same is not true for UT, even UT-BHP.</p>
<p>im worried that if i go to UT, theres going to be alot of rich stuck up kids with pretty much everything in the entire world. i want to go to a school with nice students..i heard that kids at most top 20 schools are generally nicer. idk..its a tough choice. alot of my best friends are going to UT, but i tihnk i'd like NU better.</p>
<p>When it comes down to it, i want to go to a school that will give me a great education, but ALSO give me a life. </p>
<p>to Worldchanger, um, I dont really care WHERE i live after i graduate. I just want a job (no matter which city its in) where I can make good money, so i can send money back to my folks in texas. </p>
<p>icy, where did you hear that NU students are so hardpressed into their studies? thats actually pretty scary to hear..i dont want to spendt he next 4 yrs of my life stuffed with books...</p>
<p>another thing IM REALLY concerned about, if choosing a college that regularly sends kids to top MBA programs--though, from what i've heard, NU and UT BHP do this often.</p>
<p>I'd actually wager to say that UT is just as well-known as Northwestern throughout the country. UT has really good D1 sports teams that works to the advantage of making it a household name (perhaps even moreso than Northwestern). It may not be a fair advantage, but it is nonetheless.</p>
<p>If you don't want to spend a lot of time behind books, you probably wouldn't like Northwestern as much. Students there do have to study a lot to keep their grades up. UT students have to study too, just probably not quite as much (the students have more time for fun, lets put it that way). </p>
<p>As for the question on student body...you're likely to find the same amount of nice people no matter where you go. At public schools, the vast majority of students aren't rich, so you don't have to worry about that. There are usually more rich kids at private schools, but there are also some students on scholarships. You'll make friends at either school.</p>
<p>johnlee: My point is that if you are at a stage in your life where relaxation & partying are of primary importance, then Texas is better--especially if you are considering majoring in economics at Northwestern University. Northwestern is full of brilliant students who are hardworking, goal oriented & ambitious. Northwestern ranks third in number of National Merit Scholars--behind Harvard & Texas--but the campus culture is not a party oriented one. Texas has a much larger studentbody that allows for more "wiggle-room", in my opinion. Only one poster above mentioned working 24/7 at NU----that is not accurate, but there will be a noticable difference between Texas & Northwestern with respect to partying, and with respect to how much partying you can get away with while maintaining good grades. The quarter system at Northwestern requires discipline & maturity. I think that some may have misread your intention of caring for your parents as a requirement of your physical presence in Texas; I read it differently. Economics is a hard major at Northwestern, but, with your SATs, it will be fine so long as you work on a regular & disciplined schedule as quarters seemingly fly by.</p>
<p>yes icy, you interpreted my intentions correctly. i dont have to physically be in texas lol. i just need to make enough money after graduation, so i can send them some by mail haha. thank you for all of your great advice, btw.</p>
<p>well does u-texas have grade deflation? you may see many kids who are as smart or even smarter than you but remember nu does have grade inflation. ;)</p>
<p>this is no contest. I say Northwestern. Going to NU for less money should be hard to pass up. Also, NU is considered to be a 'target' school for top consulting/business companies, while Utexas isn't... besides, NU isn't known to be that hard of a school. As long as you put decent amount of effort and work, you shouldn't find yourself with a gpa lower than 3.0 in ideal situations.</p>
<p>i don't see how you get that 15%. it says only 12% went to work in the northeast. so it's 12% at best even if we assume every one of them work for northeast Ibanks. i think a significant fraction of that actually did accounting though, considering the strenghth of their accounting program. anyway, 72% of their grads stayed in TX while the remaining 16% went elsewhere.</p>
<p>i also don't see how you can tell from this report how UT is a target as much as NU is. it doesn't even list how many grads went to which employers.</p>
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<p>Where do people come up with such nonsense all the time? Didn't UT-Austin actually come out ahead in the NRC rankings? And haven't they both bounced all around the London Times with each ranked over the other at various times? </p>
<p>They're actually quite similar in reality. Difference is UT tends to be stronger in terms of PhD programs, while NU is stronger in professional programs. But it's certainly not true NU is somehow that much more prestigious as some on here would like to think!!</p>
<p>Total PhD Program Rank
1 University of California-Berkeley
2 Stanford
3 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
4 Harvard University
5 Princeton University
6 Yale University
7 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
8 Columbia University
9 University of Wisconsin-Madison
9 Cornell University
11 University of California-Los Angeles
12 University of Chicago
13 University of Texas-Austin
14 University of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign
15 University of California-San Diego</p>
<p>Professional School Ranking
1 Stanford
2 University of California-Berkeley
3 Harvard University
4 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
5 Northwestern University
6 Columbia University
7 University of Texas-Austin
8 Duke University
9 New York University
10 University of Wisconsin-Madison
10 University of California-Los Angeles
12 University of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign
13 University of Virginia
14 University of Southern California
15 Indiana University-Bloomington</p>