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Perhaps what you’re experiencing is a cultural difference between your norms and the accepted norms of either the region of the country you’re going to school at or the norms of the dominate culture at your school? "
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<p>That might be it, but I really don’t know. That’s why I want to hear others’ opinions.</p>
<p>But legal, if we don’t know specifics we can’t know if that’s what is going on.</p>
<p>Upsilamba, I agree. Did you see my post (#32) where I mentioned that this OP sounds like pmvd all over again?</p>
<p>I don’t know who pmvd is, but this post does seem a little suspect. Generic URM, refuses to identify college, won’t go into detail on the events.</p>
<p>pmvd=moire and I suspect =this OP. Go back and read posts by pmvd and moire and you will see the similarities.</p>
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Self-entitlement behavior detected.</p>
<p>You are, above everything else, a student in the same way everyone else are. Being minority does not entitle you to ‘nice’ and ‘warmful’ treatment from anyone. Sure, if you are disrespected, or discriminated, that’s what Equal Opportunities and Diversity offices exist to. However, reading the post, I can conclude (with a non-neglectable possibility of error II) that you are bringing the race card to justify hurdles that most students undergo while in college at some point. I cannot see race as THE reason by which you are not receiving the treatment you would like to.</p>
<p>Remembering, again: being minority, disabled etc. does not implies people should treat you (or anyone else) nicer or, in other words, that they should be ‘cool’ with you because there aren’t so many students showing your phenotype of you.</p>
<p>I’m totally against affirmative action of any kind, under any circumstance, and at the same time I’m totally against race-based or gender-based discrimination. You and every other studens have a right to be respected, provided services in an equal basis, and not be subject of discrimination. That’s fair, just and desirable.</p>
<p>People shouldn’t have, however, the right of extra artifical social acceptance because they pertain to a given ‘protected category’.</p>
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But legal, if we don’t know specifics we can’t know if that’s what is going on.
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<p>Georgetown. It doesn’t make any difference, does it?</p>
<p>So you’re going to a university who’s strongest school is the School of Foreign Service?</p>
<p>Yeah, it’s definitely you.</p>
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<p>Makes a big difference.
<a href=“http://www8.georgetown.edu/admin/provost/dac/assessment/DAC%20Campus%20Climate%20Report,%20final.pdf[/url]”>http://www8.georgetown.edu/admin/provost/dac/assessment/DAC%20Campus%20Climate%20Report,%20final.pdf</a></p>
<p>According to that report, at least in 2005, you were hardly the only one dissatisfied with the minority experience.</p>
<p>Thanks Modestmelody. My white d and I are planning a visit soon to Georgetown and GWU. I think we all will want to know about what follow up has been done to ameliorate the problems in the 05 report. Most of you that have made denigrating remarks to the OP: suck it up now and apologize. The guy (or gal?) has obvious concerns and he is not the first to be dissatisfied at Georgetown.</p>
<p>Wow that is scary. Is Georgetown even that great of a university to warrant being condescending? I know when i visited Yale, I experienced zero racial animus and was readily welcomed and treated like a member of the class from whites, asians, and blacks.</p>
<p>Whites and Asians at Yale got into their first choice (unless it was Harvard or Princeton) and have less reason to be bitter about affirmative action taking “their” spot.</p>
<p>Georgetown is an easy enough school to get into that I doubt affirmative action is necessary for blacks to get in there.</p>
<p>Read these forums, there are plenty of angry whites and asians because of affirmative action.</p>
<p>Georgetown is easy to get into? By what standard?</p>
<p>Those people should just grow up, it is rather annoying. Many of them would have been rejected without affirmative action, expecially since blacks make up like less than 10% at every top school. People use affirmative action as an excuse to compensate for the fact that they were rejected. I got rejected from Harvard and Princeton and there were blacks who got in with lower scores than me but I don’t go around complaining about AA. </p>
<p>When I say easy to get into I mean comparatively, I only considered colleges were I had a legit chance of getting rejected to be difficult and I think I could have easily gotten into Georgetown. It is a skewed standard I will admit, but everything has to be by comparison.</p>
<p>that sucks legal_mimi. i’m a minority at my school. however i’ve never felt discriminated against or anything at my school. now generally i’d say if you think everyone is out to disrespect you, then maybe you’re being a bit paranoid, but if you’re not the only one feeling that way and others have complained as well, then maybe you’re on to something. i still must admit i find it a bit hard that there isn’t a single person on your campus that does not disrespect you. i mean if this has happened to others then surely enough there’s gotta be some sympathizer.</p>
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that sucks legal_mimi. i’m a minority at my school. however i’ve never felt discriminated against or anything at my school.
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<p>I would not say that I was discriminated against, perhaps simply not treated as respectfully as I would have liked to. I did feel discriminated against in a few instances, but on what basis? Perhaps I was discriminated against on the basis of my attitude, demeanor, appearance or something unrelated to my ethnic background.</p>
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<p>I don’t think everyone is out to disrespect me. Or maybe I am the type of person who deserves to be disrespected?</p>
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<p>I find it hard to believe that after reading my posts you formed the impression that I think that there isn’t a single person on my campus that does not disrespect me.</p>
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<p>That’s what I want to know. Has it happened to others or is it just me?</p>
<p>Legal, I would tell you to just ignore it. People who discriminate against others on the basis of race are stupid and it speaks volumes about their low intelligence and maturity level rather than anything about you. You are in DC so I know there are other blacks perhaps you could get in touch with a black group on campus or something. But don’t worry about those people they are dumb.</p>
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<p>The only reason you’re unhappy is because your self-image/ego was not validated.</p>
<p>And you are being paranoid, you dont have a strong sense of self.</p>
<p>Research ego</p>
<p>And i already told you about the Pygmalion Effect, thats GOLD, dont brush it off like its nothing.</p>
<p>Research external attribution</p>
<p>I really want to know what you feel was disrespectful or an example of discrimination. Perhaps if you describe the situation, an objective outsider can provide insight as to whether you’re misinterpreting commonly used cues that don’t exist within your own cultural background or have a different meaning in your own experience.</p>
<p>Don’t start blaming yourself as being worthy of discrimination or disrespect-- most likely there is a miscommunication of expectation and values either by you projecting onto others a very different cultural expectation or them projecting their expectation on you (possibly both).</p>
<p>If we knew what the heck you were talking about perhaps we could help.</p>
<p>For instance, as a New York white Jewish male, I expect to interrupt and to be interrupted when having serious, deep, and provocative dialog. I’ve learned that in other cultures, especially when addressing someone who would be “formally” your “superior” (a formality that often doesn’t exist in my context), interruption is a huge deal and a major sign of disrespect. From my cultural perspective, that kind of dialog is conducted where the expectation is multiple interruptions and interrupting, but I have to be careful to change my behavior and expectations in many situations where this is not the norm.</p>
<p>And bagels, while I agree that stuff all could be going on, because legal_immi won’t share details, I wouldn’t jump so quickly to that conclusion. The miscommunication I describe above could easily be the cause of plenty of confusion and lack of comfort and certainly is something students confront, especially students who come from minority cultures, when entering college.</p>