<p>the fact that he’s paranoid shows that he has a weak sense of self</p>
<p>I thought we already esteblished that we don’t really know either way whether the OP is actually being discriminated against or is being paranoid. You guys are just repeating yourselves. Wait for the OP to respond so the discussion can move forward.</p>
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<p>That’s rude you don’t know the OP and don’t know the situations he is referring to so you should keep your opinions to yourself if all you have to say is something insulting. People typically only form opinions such as the OP after several repeated instances tending toward the same situation. For the OP to post this topic, I would wager he must have experienced SOMETHING repeatedly, whether that something was racism or not is debatable but don’t insult the OP like that.</p>
<p>thats not meant to be an insult. hah
wow i dont think you understand what im talking about</p>
<p>I dunno if anyone knows what you’re talking about, bagels.</p>
<p>hah probably not. Someone probably has to know a lot about psychology to know what im talking about</p>
<p>thats why I’m telling him to research these things</p>
<p>I read the link and it is something that I am aware of personally. Because to be honest I remember instances of my life where I would forget what race I was because I never was treated any differently and I didn’t really even notice race until recently and in the time since it skews my perceptions of things. </p>
<p>The effect (if I am not mistaken) basically says that what you perceive to be true will be true. I.e. if you expect white people to be mean then any slight from a white person will be linked to their color as opposed to the situation.</p>
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<p>In some instances that might have been the case. In some other instances I was brushed off or treated rudely or condescendingly.</p>
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<p>How do you know?</p>
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<p>I will give you one example: last semester I went to my dean’s office to ask for information regarding majors related to my major. The dean, instead of sitting down with me to discuss my situation, directed me to a shelf full of books and pamphlets just outside of his office and told me to search for the information I was looking for. You might think that perhaps the dean told me this in a gracious, playful manner. He didn’t. He was indifferent, didn’t take his eyes off of the book he was reading, and almost seemed irritated by the fact that I asked him for help. The whole meeting lasted no more than two minutes before I was dismissed. Why did this happen? What did I do wrong? Why couldn’t the dean answer my question? Isn’t he supposed to know those things?</p>
<p>Then there were the times when some students randomly asked me if I was a student at the school and seemed confused when I answered affirmatively. I could give you more examples but I don’t believe they are necessary.</p>
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<p>"I’m totally against affirmative action of any kind, under any circumstance, and at the same time I’m totally against race-based or gender-based discrimination. "</p>
<p>omg, yes. i hate affirmative action. =/</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-life/707318-if-college-student-employee-treats-me-condescendingly-how-do-i-tell-if.html?highlight=treat+me+condescendingly[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-life/707318-if-college-student-employee-treats-me-condescendingly-how-do-i-tell-if.html?highlight=treat+me+condescendingly</a></p>
<p>repeat thread using a different CC name-pmvd</p>
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<p>And that’s when you tell the dean to put down the damn book, look at you when you’re speaking, and show some basic level of respect that I’m sure he expects to receive. </p>
<p>If someone upsets you, even the dean (and believe me, I’ve gone there with my former dean), call them on it.
Some people are genuinely clueless about how they present themselves. Others are just *******s.</p>
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<p>Only someone from Yale would make such an asinine statement.</p>
<p>Sounds like PMVD has returned yet again and is telling the same old stories with the addition of saying he’s an URM.</p>
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<p>I don’t pick fights I know I can’t win. Besides, the dean is the highest ranking person that I have access to at the school I go to. What’s the next step? Request an audience with the school’s president?</p>
<p>The next step is to stop whining and being paranoid.</p>
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<p>How was that a fight you know you can’t win? If you think Plattsburgh’s method was too direct, you could simply say, “Sir, I have questions about my major that I would like to discuss with you personally. Does now work for you or would another time be better?”</p>
<p>He may tell you to schedule an appointment, in which case you do and follow up on the scheduling in person to make sure you’re not being brushed off.</p>
<p>Remember, you’re a paying customer. You can demand good service. </p>
<p>But also remember you’re at Georgetown, a Catholic school. A certain bureaucracy and lack of respect for youngsters is part of the culture of Catholicism. You might have to deal with some hoops because of this, like potentially rude deans. (That guy sounds like any dean at any Catholic school to me. I wouldn’t have even thought him especially rude, just a little useless.)</p>
<p>LogicWarrior, you really need to stop posting about bitterness at the lesser ivys and Duke. I have been at Duke for three years and I have met zero bitter people in my time there. I have never seen a URM at Duke disrespected due to race, not to mention that Duke has one of the largest URM populations of any school in the country. Duke has some self segregation, but that is a function of greek life, not bitterness or racism. Personally, I had no desire to go to Harvard, Yale, or Princeton, and quite frankly I think a lot of Duke students are the same way.</p>
<p>I’m talking about posts I read on these forums. And how many URMs do you know? I’d feel pretty disrespected if I were “self-segregated” out of Greek life.</p>
<p>You are completely ignorant of the situation. They self segregate into NHPC groups (historically black organizations) by choice. And there are many URM’s in your traditional fraternities and sororities as well.</p>
<p>I’m not going to defend greek life. I think it creates a divided culture at Duke, which really doesn’t help the situation. But the whole concept of self-segregation is that individuals make a personal choice to join a group; so you would never be “self-segregated”, you would be making a personal choice. </p>
<p>I’d also be curious about what posts you have read on these forums from Duke students. The Duke students who post here love Duke. It is pretty clear if you read the Duke forum. </p>
<p>I think I “know” at least 60% of my class, so I know quite a few URM students. My good friends are mostly White, Indian, Asian, and Hispanic. I only have 1 close African American friend. No one has problems with the culture. Duke does an excellent job of maintaining an open dialogue about race relations on campus. Duke has recruitment weekends specifically for URM students where they are flown in for free. </p>
<p>Race simply isn’t an issue at duke. Duke’s culture problems (as explained with an incredible amount of hyperbole in Rolling Stones) revolve around Greek life, not race.</p>
<p>Omg this screams pmvd all over again… geez…</p>