<p>Hello? I need a quick response. Is AP Lit and AP Stat worth it? I have only taken 1 AP class (Bio) in my whole 4 years( School didn’t offer any until a short while ago)</p>
<p>AP statistics tends to be useless for credit toward engineering major requirements; engineering majors that require statistics tend to require calculus-based statistics courses.</p>
<p>Looks like Penn Math 103 and 104 are a typical frosh calculus sequence (114 would be the subsequent multivariable calculus course).</p>
<p>Okay, thanks for replying!
Tomorrow is my last day of school.
I plan to take Calculus at school, give up no AP Lit and Stat and take Physics at local CC.</p>
<p>Instead of taking Calc and Physics at CC and take both Lit and Stat.
Those 2 AP classes won’t even help college admission am I right? And I am already taking class at Penn in July, September-October, and studying for SATs;</p>
<p>Is your high school’s calculus AB, BC, or something else?</p>
<p>AP English literature is generally considered more favorable than regular English when a college admissions reader is reading your application.</p>
<p>That is the thing I don’t know. All I know is that it’s regular but most likely AB.</p>
<p>Yes AP Lit is more favorable but if I take that, I cannot take Calculus in school.
And I cannot take Eng Honors and AP Stat together.</p>
<p>I’m extremely worried because I only have 1 AP class my whole hs career, now my school is beginning to offer 2 new AP classes just next year…and I don’t take them, wouldn’t it look bad?
But if I do, I would have to take Calculus at a CC along with Physics which I planned to take too.</p>
<p>So my question is. Should I strive for 2 AP classes senior year and force myself to take Calc at my local CC? Or is it not worth it?
I’m aiming for Penn. </p>
<p>Calculus (for math/physics/engineering majors) at a CC or UPenn will be a more rigorous course than a high school AB course, or a high school non-AP course at a typical high school.</p>
<p>Right, so should I go for the 2 AP classes then?
I would have to cram in Calculus in September…and Physics somewhere too.
My school doesn’t offer Physics until 2 years later after I graduate, will have to take it at CC. </p>
<p>What prevents you from taking calculus at a college during the regular school year?</p>
<p>I am also taking Physics at CC during September if I take Calc at Penn (September - December) , and if I don’t take Calc at Penn and take it at the CC, then I need to take another class at Penn. And at that time I am applying for college and studying for October SAT (3rd time).</p>
<p>But to be honest, I can use the entire month of August to study for SATs and do college stuff, it’s just really busy. </p>
<p>What may matter is how you are trying to make this work, despite the hs limitations. That says something about you. All your options are now swirling in my head. Can you just lay out the real choice(s)? Calc at cc can’t be that bad. Taking a cc class in lit in summer or fall would show that sort of interest and rounding. But somehow getting the calc and physics you need will show awareness and motivation, a willingness to climb out of the hs box to do so. Even if it’s at cc. In general, AP stats is not the weight of academic challenge for an engineering direction. If it’s the best you can do at your hs, maybe fine. But kids also involved in DE (or their own cc/college course registrations,) don’t always “need” to show they filled their hs schedule with APs, just for the sake of it, when they are already in college courses. Especially at an arts hs. Depends.</p>
<p>Is the GC rigor question still on the Common App? </p>
<p>Okay well my teacher said to email her when I get a definitive answer on my college courses for Calculus (and Physics but that does not affect the scheduling). Then she can still put me in to the 2 ap classes (no calc) or Eng honors and Calc. </p>
<p>If I wanted to be an engineer, my top priority would be Calculus and the sciences. I would not worry about AP Stats. I would try to take physics online or something. Talk to your Guidance Counselor on how to do that. Can you take it at a Community College? Once you get that figured out, take the highest level of English you can.</p>
<p>Well like I said, it’s either both APs or none, and AP Lit is the highest English class at my school which replaces English.
Anyways, if I take Introduction to Calculus at Penn, would that count as Calculus? I am afraid colleges won’t count this as Calculus.
<a href=“https://www.sas.upenn.edu/lpscourses/courses/term/2014C/sprogram/691/course/MATH103601”>https://www.sas.upenn.edu/lpscourses/courses/term/2014C/sprogram/691/course/MATH103601</a></p>
<p>I wanna take physics…and if I take calculus outside of class I don’t think I would be able to also take physics…</p>
<p>Yes Introduction to Calc at Penn would “count” as calc and would also establish your ability to take a college-level, college paced class.</p>
<p>I posted this on your other thread, but I thought it bears repeating:</p>
<p>There are several AP courses that colleges value more than others. At the very top of the list would be the holy grail of AP Calc BC . . . . and towards the bottom would be AP Stat. (Many Admissions Directors refer to AP Stat as “AP Lite.”) So, I would take English Lit or English Honors, especially as most selective colleges want students to take English every year of high school.</p>
<p>FWIW: A good way to judge how a college values an AP course is to look at the credits, or advanced placement, they give for those AP courses once admitted. Take Yale, for example. <a href=“http://yalecollege.yale.edu/content/table-acceleration-credit”>http://yalecollege.yale.edu/content/table-acceleration-credit</a></p>
<p>Yale gives NO acceleration credit whatsoever for AP Stat (even if you score a 5 on the exam), while you do get acceleration credit for AP English Lit if you score a 5, AP Calc if you score a 4 or 5 and AP Physics if you score a 4 or 5.</p>
<p>@MYOS1634, thanks, but I may not do that if I can take Calculus at school.
@gibby, I don’t think I can get a 5 on AP Lit test, and it seems like AP Stat is not worth it over English Honors.
But I took the AP Bio exam and I think I got a 3 on it…lol, scores come out in July.</p>
<p>AP Lit would take so much more time and definitely would hinder my college application process…</p>
<p>So my plan is to take English Honors and Calculus in school (with Chemistry Honors, not affected by schedule, and other classes blah blah)
And then take a class at Penn along with Physics (Penn doesn’t offer it for the program I’m applying to) at my local CC.</p>
<p>Sounds good?
My vigor for senior year can be compensated by my classes outside maybe? I don’t care about the credit, I just care about how it would look to colleges like Yale, Penn.
I am also taking Biomedical class at Penn in July, applied for it (competitive) and got in. </p>
<p>■■■ no more available seats for Physics class…</p>
<p>Anywhere else to take Physics?</p>
<p>The reality is , with no math or science background you will not be a competitive candidate for admission into an engineering program. Besides, it really seems as if you are much more interested in English and Lit than calculus or Physics. You might be miserable in engineering. </p>