<p>hey what were ur daughter's Stats if you dont mind me asking? </p>
<p>im out of state
asian minority
thanks</p>
<p>Do want to add, that there are public schools that have counselors who are with NACAC, and the school rules are made with the NACAC rules in mind. It is not wise to get into a battle with your highschool and counselors about this, as they do sit on the high catbird seat as they process your kid's app. If your student is applying to a school that is associated with this group, and many highly selective colleges are in this group, they will bide by the provisions, and a phone call to such colleges from the school counselor can affect your student's admissions chances, and this can be all off record. I was told by our school that belonging to this groups leads to an element of trust among members which can help boost chances of admissions to these schools. It is true that our highschool has gotten kids into many selective LACs when the raw #s, particularly gpa made them borderline candidates. THe assurance that the highschool is working with a certain set of standaards can be comforting to the admissions departments, who are besieged these days with phantom acceptees and apps. Many public school have restrictions on things like the # of ED and EA schools, number of applications , and though you can fight them and win, unless you have a solid case, it may not be worthwhile.</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying cpt. Our HS is, as I said, in the boonies, and does not have any of the restrictions you mention. Of course, I would not suggest that anyone do something that would get their kid into a bad situation...didn't realize all these things were out there. I consider myself educated on the subject now. (And that said, it still rankles me a bit that public or private, the schools have that much power).</p>
<p>Ebeeee, it rankles me too. I have expressed my opinion clearly on what I think about the restrictions. This is a pet peeve of mine in the area of college admissions. With the colleges beating the bushes like mad to get as many apps as possible regardless of fit, of course they are going to get many phantom apps. High schools imposing their rules when it's such a free market out there puts students who are from such schools at a disadvantage. In Ny, some of the city schools have had limits on the number of apps, and have tried to gatekeep from certain schools. The thing is, there are situations were many apps is the best way to go, and you take the risks that come with spreading oneself so thin, if that is what you want to do. How the heck is a highschool able to come up with one size fits all limits? Kids who need money for school are wise to cast a wide net if they can handle the apps. Yes, it rankles me too.</p>
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<p>cptofthehouse, I agree with you! At our hs, one gc tells parents that only one or 2 EA schools are allowed. The gc says that more than this is "morally wrong", so it is not allowed. We are not talking about SCEA, or ED, but just EA. Also, they talk about how expensive it is to apply to too many schools, and that they recommend 7 schools. There was no mention of tuition waivers for low income, applying online rather than with paper sometimes saves money, etc...The real reason for the discussion, IMO, was to discourage too many apps./student.</p>
<p>We're confusing apples and oranges. Many selective colleges expect that you will only pay a deposit at one place and commit to attend. Most public colleges do not have this requirement. Why do you think they have a refund policy?</p>
<p>Double depositing has been the subject of endless controversy on these boards. I doubt that anyone who understands the policies and issues would consider this to be a form of double depositing. </p>
<p>Personally, I think cptofthehouse is doing an alarmist disservice by muddling the issue here: the difference between an enrollment deposit coupled with a commitment to attend on the one hand and an enrollment deposit to hold housing at your local U who allow refunds on the other hand.</p>
<p>Maybe the answer is that these elite prep schools can't imagine one of their kids going to a school that allows refunds? :)</p>
<p>Send in the housing deposit. If you change your mind, that is fine. Schools have this happen all the time.</p>
<p>Maybe right, Newmassdad. Just a housing deposit is one thing, but the ones we got also had a commitment to attend which is usually non refundable along with the refundable (by a certain date which was extended) housing deposit. Basically, the way the NACAC rules work, you do not accept until May 1st when you have all of your acceptances. If you have a school that wants a commitment prior to May 1st, NACAC will assist in getting the commitment extended till May 1st. That way you only give one acceptance, unless you are in a waitlist situation. There are problems with this whole thing because of housing, financial and merit aid, and schools that are late in acceptances. My take is that these rules came about when 90%+ of the kids in the NACAC prep schools applied to NACAC schools. Even today, most of the kids do get into NACAC from these independent schools, but the circle is widening. One problem with these selective prep schools is that though your chances of getting into a selective LAC or other school that have customarily accepted alot of prep school kids is heightened (that is the lore, appears to be true), you could be at disadvantage at the larger state schools. Those schools often do not care about breaking ED/EA rules, double dipping or a lot of things the smaller schools do monitor. I'll ask the school college counselor about this particular case, but I seem to recall a young man accepted very early to Indiana and Wisconsin a few years ago who wanted to accept one of those acceptance and was told not to do so by the school for the reasons I stated.</p>
<p>I agree though, that I am being a bit alarmist, as few schools would care, and even those that do are not going to be investigating if this is done. If, however, the school counselors are part of NACAC, it is their responsibility to curb this sort of thing. It's better just to do it quietly and not announce it to everyone that you sent in the acceptance check. Also I would not bother to ask the GC, if the school is parat of NACAC, since it may put him on the spot. I will call tomorrow to find out if this is something that they would discourage since as Newmassdad pointed out, this is not truly double dipping. It is accepting a Rolling decision but keeping the regular decision schools as an option with the plan to reneging on the acceptance if the student changes his mind. You can kind of see how it would be bad for to do this with, say an EA school. Or how about an EA and Rolling school, or a number of EA and rolling schools. With just one school, you are not accepting multiple schools and double depositing, but you can see what it does to a school's admission picture if everyone did this to an early admissions and/or rolling school. </p>
<p>Most schools from my second son's choices did not mention any restrictions about accepting more than one school. I think CMU has punitive measures if you double or more dip, and there is one other school that I cannot place that also wanted your signature stating that you are not accepting any other school, and if you do so, you acceptance is rescinded if that college finds out.</p>
<p>From someone who waited at a different U, same housing situation...send it in! DD is living in a hotel and has to worry about packing up her room during finals week (before winter break) so that she can be moved to on-campus housing. We waited till late to send ours in.</p>
<p>Just curious how long it took to get the acceptance from the time of application. When did you apply? </p>
<p>I believe the 'recommended' application deadline for PSU is coming up on the 30th and was curious about how long their rolling process takes. Also curious if you'd share some of your daughter's stats with us? </p>
<p>Thanks and, most importantly, congratulations to your daughter!!</p>
<p>Panhandlegal, My daughter applied to PSU on 10/6, everything was in from guidance on about 10/18. Notification that a decision had been made was posted on 11/20 and she got her acceptance letter 11/24. She happened to get two acceptances on 11/24 so it was a happy day at our house!!</p>
<p>Actually, some of the nicest rooms at my college were the converted study lounges the year they over-enrolled. My friend had a SINK IN HER ROOM, and cabinets! They gave them wardrobes for their clothes, and they had huge windows. Too bad the school disconnected the stove and fridge, though...</p>
<p>Send in the deposit. This is my vote.</p>
<p>We did the same when the state flagship U accepted out S in October. We knew that other decisions would not be forthcoming until April, and that there was approx. a 50/50 chance he would attend state FSU in the end. </p>
<p>I do not feel that this was unethical.</p>
<p>As it turned out, S was later accepted by his 1st choice. We immediately informed state FSU and forfeited the deposit.</p>
<p>The peace of mind between October and April was worth every penny.</p>