<p>For one, it’s not true that EVERYONE cheats. Yeah, pretty much everyone has said/heard whether a test was hard or not, but that’s not cheating. Talking about the answers to most-all questions with someone who hasn’t taken the test yet is. It seems like theres a grey line here that many people aren’t agreeing on as far as what is/isn’t cheating.</p>
<p>However, if this is for personal gain, I agree with everyone else.</p>
<p>imo, with computer. a teachers should give different tests for each class to advoid this type of situations.</p>
<p>I’ve seen more people get themselves in trouble for doing the right thing and speaking out than if they just would have kept their mouth shut. Stay out of it especially since you have something to gain.</p>
<p>Hello everyone, I just wanted to thank every one for the advice. I decided to go through with it without an anonymous note. I confronted the girl and told her that if she doesn’t turn herself in, then I would. She ended up confessing it to the teacher and it became such a big scandal in my school. She ended up getting a 0 on the Test, so I feel good that I did the right thing, and it was even better that she did the right thing too! Again thank you for the advice</p>
<p>It’s awful that she cheated, of course, but I can’t help but feel a bit bad for the girl. She didn’t become valedictorian just by cheating, and she was probably frightened to death of failing and not getting into a good school, like half of us on this site.</p>
<p>I agree with preamble and boysx3. If you think turning her in was the right thing to do, then I’m not going to change your mind, but I have the sneaking suspicion that this was done for personal gain. If it was a student with a D-average, would you still have confronted them?</p>
<p>I wouldn’t consider asking a friend about a test cheating. Like, at all. I discuss what’s on certain tests with my friends all the time, right in front of teachers, and we’ve never had any issues.</p>
<p>Poor girl.</p>
<p>In tenth grade, I had a situation where the student sitting next to me in Physics asked some other students what an answer was during a quiz. I told him to stop, but he didn’t, so I reported him to the teacher anonymously. My teacher ended up getting angry at the whole class, and the guy knew I was the one who reported him because I had confronted him. Soon enough, the entire class knew.</p>
<p>I had a couple reasons for reporting him, but not all were completely ethical. Firstly, my friend did not know how to get some of the answers and did not cheat so failed the quiz, and I didn’t think it would be right for him to pass it. Secondly, the kid was taking advantage of the fact that there was a substitute teacher that day. Thirdly, he’s a jerk, and he had insulted me to my face before. I’m not sure I would have reported him if he’d been a nice kid…</p>
<p>In my case, however, he denied having cheated (although it was blatant), so I did end up reporting him. My teacher also didn’t really pay attention to the class during quizzes, so the boy thought that he wouldn’t be caught or get in trouble.</p>
<p>I don’t think it’s the best thing that I’m sympathizing with the girl, but I kind of feel bad for her. If she does it every time, then it would be a different story, but from your story, you’ve only caught her doing it that one time. She probably works extremely hard and it wasn’t the most ethical thing to ask for answers in the first place, but I think she should have at least got a warning to never do it again. I feel like there’s a really big, underlying motive for personal gain here.</p>
<p>But, what’s done is done…</p>
<p>Yeah. Maybe it was a one time thing, and she was feeling the pressure to be val and how much everyone else expects of her.</p>
<p>I don’t condone cheating, but this was rather selfish. As some of the above posters have said, I’m fairly certain you did this simply to boost your rank. If this didn’t benefit or harm you in any way, would you have felt as strongly about reporting her?</p>
<p>I hope that the poor girl doesn’t suffer too severely for something that EVERYONE (yes, even you, OP) have most likely done at one point.</p>
<p>B*tch move.</p>
<p>^^^^ I kind of agree…</p>
<p>You definitely shouldn’t turn this girl in!
Apart from the fact you sound like you’re doing this just to raise your own scores, turning this girl in would ruin her life, and could you justify doing something like that
As a contender for valedictorian, she probably works really hard. And she is probs also living under high expectations if she wants to go to Harvard. Snitching on her would destroy her, for something small that most people do. I’m sure many people in your school have asked a peer for test questions</p>
<p>As for you, your name will come out, even if you submit this anonymously. If it’s truly anonymous (AKA a letter), then it won’t have much weight, and the whole thing, without solid evidence, will blow over</p>
<p>if you go talk to the teacher, requesting anonymity, there will be a full blown investigation with consquences for everyone</p>
<p>your best course of action is to forget this and to study hard on your own, not try to take down others to rise up</p>
<p>And as a matter of ethnics, as I said, tattling on her would ruin her. She’s a person too, who is doing something fairly common. Telling wouldn’t just boost you up a bit while bringing her down a bit. She would get into really big trouble, with this on her permanent record, and her chances of being both valedictorian and going to a good college would be completely over. </p>
<p>Think this through VERY CAREFULLY
by bringing yourself up a little, you are ruining another’s life</p>
<p>I do not think that the OP should get such a bad wrap for turning this girl in. If this girl is as smart as everyone says she must be to even be close to the #1 spot, she should know that a zero on a test is the consequence for cheating (even if it is only the first time). It is not like the consequences are a big secret; students have to sign off on them and everything. I’m just saying that it is not like the OP got the girl the zero on the test, that is just what the policy is. Yes, the only reason she got the consequences enacted on her was because the OP brought it to someone’s attention, but in the end, the girl should have gotten the zero.</p>
<p>By the way, sharing/receiving information about tests is considered cheating as outlined by most schools’ handbooks. Just because everyone does it, doesn’t make it right. And, at least at my school, everyone is aware of the few students that do it all the time.</p>
<p>Oh, and a zero on some test this girl took in high school is not going to ruin her life.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t turn her in. Like many posters have said, there’s no proof.</p>
<p>I DIDN’T cheat, but somebody thought I did on Final #1 (we took two) and turned me in without proof. All the teacher made me do was average my two scores when he was going to take the best one. Too bad my scores were 55/60 and 57/60. I only got knocked down a point.</p>
<p>^It could
cheating goes on your permanent record, and then counselers and teachers know
and colleges look at that record, and read guidance/teacher recommendations
so she won’t be able to go to a good college
and that may very well ruin her life
so some little thing she did in high school would have repercussions that may affect her college and then her career
she’s not a bad person, so why would she deserve this?</p>
<p>Well. Cheating’s bad and everything, but everyone asks their friends in earlier periods about tests. A lot of people don’t even consider it cheating while they’re doing it, because it’s not like you’re stealing the answer key and writing down the answers. </p>
<p>Normally, I don’t consider “everyone’s doing it” to be a good excuse, but honestly, cheating goes on your permanent record and are you sure this one incident is a big enough deal to report her?</p>
<p>I’d confront the girl myself first before I went to the administration.</p>
<p>^ Of course she deserves it. She knew the consequences the whole time, just like everyone else. Everyone that cheats on something deserves the zero, whether they get caught or not. The rules say that is what should happen if you cheat. It is nothing personal; nor does it have anything to do with whether a person is “bad.” But obviously, this girl has made a misstep in the ethical department.</p>
<p>Not getting into a “good” college does not mean this girl cannot be successful. But anyway, she is the one that decided to cheat. She knew and signed off on what is considered cheating and the consequences of cheating on the first day of high school, and she chose to cheat anyway.</p>
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<p>exactly. this thread should have ended after this comment.</p>