<p>people are being way too harsh in this thread, you are still young and it is understandable that you would crack under such pressure, doesn't make it right, but I think that your teacher comparing it to a "stab in the back" is a little much.</p>
<p>I cheated all the time in HS, I'm not proud of it, but again it happened. Since then I have become much more mature and honest I have not and would never do the same things again. Even if there is potential that this could be a black mark on your college apps and you don't get into Harvard (if that is where you want to go ;)) there is always the opportunity to transfer from a less prestigious school to the one you might like to attend. It's not the end of the world, face the music and admit everything and even though you will look bad right now you will have much more respect for yourself in the future.</p>
<p>I am absolutely shocked by the number of posters saying things like "oh come on, you've all cheated before..." I have never cheated. I don't know why people seem to think it's okay.</p>
<p>although you did wrong, i still do feel bad for you. Why? because that sounds like me in 5th grade. (it was another problem not cheating but whatever, close enough)</p>
<p>fortunately because i was in 5th grade and my teachers were nice about it, they forgave me without telling my parents.... (i'm still embrassed when i think about it)</p>
<p>I don't know what can help in your situation but i do know the emotions you must be going through.</p>
<p>hopefully you learned your lesson (after my 5th grade incident i never did the same thing twice) and your teachers will be lenient about it.</p>
<p>You did choose a pretty bad way to cheat though, dude.
Oh i did get caught for cheating before but my teacher let me go (although she was suspicious) i just said I put down notes on my note sheet (she let us have a printout) cough cough.</p>
<p>I always did have stuff written in my calculator.. and then I taped a paper onto my calculator cover etc.. I was really bad in math, i needed all the help i could get. ... i don't cheat any more though good (mostly because i have no math. hah)</p>
<p>heh heh... regarding my previous post (#183):</p>
<p>I never would have written it if I had known that erato was applying for prep school. Here is my new advice:</p>
<p>Get. Over. It. You did something wrong, but it is DEFINITELY not the end of the world if you don't get to go to the prep school of your choice. Just tell the truth and take your licks before anything worse happens. You can probably get into a prep school anyway. Do the right thing.</p>
<p>"The teachers let me go all the time. Even during important tests - but not their own subject."</p>
<p>What do you want us to say? "Wow, you're so cool! You can cheat your teachers and yourself all in one action!" Please, your demeanor just doesn't fit with this forum... if you want to flaunt your cheating, take it somewhere else. </p>
<p>Thank God there's the SAT to validate the truly strong candidates' GPAs. And, yes, stuck-on-1700, we all know you made it to 1900, big whoop.</p>
<p>To the OP: best of luck to you if you've been genuine in the posts you made. Tough situation, wrong decision. We've all been there at least once, whether it be cheating or not, and I hope it works out and you've learned your lesson. Just like any wrong-doing (save murder, etc.), the 1st time you do it is fine if you learn from it, but those who do it habitually are just a disgrace.</p>
<p>If I were falunting my cheating abilities would I have said: "my teachers let me go all the time."? I got caught all the time, they just let it go and told me not to be so obvious next time.
and yes, big woop!
and SAT is no accurate measurement of a perasons GPA. And, no, I don't feel like debating that right now - that's a debate for another day.</p>
<p>Okay. So what I would do is write a letter of apology, as well as sincerely express your feelings on the subject. This is a breach of character, right?</p>
<p>I had a slightly similar experience, except I was caught drinking. What I did was a) express that you are only human. Humans make mistakes...it is part of the life-learning experience. Acknowledge that you are "flagged" now as a could-be cheater, but also make sure that your teachers/principal know that your dream is these top-notch schools, and yeah you slipped, but you will do anything in your power, if you could, to change what you did.
b) have a heart-to-heart about pressure, how instead of talking about it/releasing it, it just built up until you couldn't stand it and it found a negative and unacceptable outlet.</p>
<p>You know, the sad thing is, at my school, people cheat like that on a daily basis, and teachers sometimes see it with their own two eyes, but depending on who it is, do <em>nothing</em>.
it really, really, sucks.</p>
<p>Relax. Take a deep breath. The message of most religions is forgiveness (esp. the ones popular in this country, namely various types of Christianity). I think everyone here knows that if they were in your situation now they would want some consolation, understanding, and candid advice. So I'll try to be empathetic, to the best of my ability.</p>
<p>First, look at your life. Remember everything you've worked for and towards. Look at your future and realize where you go to college is not THAT important, either for your happiness or for your moral standing. I'd imagine you would rather be a good person than a person-who-graduate-from-[insert school], and you have plenty of life left to dedicate to being a good person. So that might help to put the issue in context--this seems like "the end of the world," probably, but its not. Its not even close. The end of the world is when your malnourished child dies before your eyes for want of a $2.60 shot as you wither and die from AIDS and know at home a your two or three remaining kids are going to sleep hungry.</p>
<p>So, now that you can clearly see its just one small event in life, not the apocalypse, you need to be analytical. What is the right thing to do? I'm not sure what you want to do, but I'd suggest being honest. Its hard to be honest and people will respect you more for it and find it easier to forgive you (I would anyway). This is probably something you should discuss with your parents or anyone who will listen. (My AIM screen name is neinSteve if you want to chat.)</p>
<p>Finally, recognize that the best way to correct past mistakes is not to sit and be sad and agonize--that doesn't help anyone. If you're Catholic then go to communion, but after that (regardless of religion) DO SOMETHING GOOD. Cheating is bad, for a lot of reasons. Anyway, relax, be honest, put things in prospective, do your HW, don't do drugs, stay in school, [insert another cliche]. Its not the end of the world, so smile (it'll make your happier, actually, which is a rather bizarre scientific fact).</p>
<p>I'm sorry for what happened. Cheating occurs. I can't say I've never done it. I've never been caught, and even when I did, I only did it to check(the teacher wasn't in the room), and I only really got 1 point out of it. The only time I was "caught", was when I really wasn't trying to cheat. In the 8th grade, we were taking a math test. I'm sorta one of those people whose like whoa...I didn't notice that, and I'm not always too aware of my surroundings. I work in messy environments, so I was doing this math test, which everyone thought was hard, on top of the math book, which was turned to the formula everyone else in the class forgot. So, then, midway through the test, the teacher notices a book under my test on the desk, and she's like what the heck are you doing, and I'm like what? And then I got really scared, because it was totally unintentional. She believed me though, thankfully. She said it out loud, so I was really embarrassed though. Anyway...to you point. I think you guys should ease off him. </p>
<p>Don't rub it in. I don't think he deserves it. </p>
<p>The only thing which would suck is getting rejected from your number one college(and possibly a ton of your safeties), the one you've dreamed of going since you were young, just because you did that one thing. You did all the work to get into it, and you would have too, if it wasn't for this.</p>
<p>I don't see why everyone is so self-righteous about this (granted, I only skimmed through a few pages of this thread.) Most of the overacheivers (and that's who this board is largely composed of) I personally know have no compunction with cheating, as long as they don't get caught. Nothing wrong with that either. The world is a cut-throat place, get ahead in it by any means necessary. Whatever. I'm semi-drunk, sorry about the rant.</p>
<p>I agree, to some extent I find it rather cynical that high a achievers are taking such a "holier than thou" stance in regards to cheating.</p>
<p>The truth is, any high caliber student has gotten to such a level by being aggressive, some achieve this by rigorous studying, others are naturally gifted, and there are some who cheat. I know plenty of kids at my school (the kind with the never perfect GPA's) who alter quizes/hw on honors code based grading, use previous tests from last years classes to study, and utilize information from other students who have already taken the test. I'm sure if a high achiever was given the opportunity to gain an advantage in a test, etc in a low risk situation, they would take it.</p>
<p>Its the competitive college admissions system which is degrading the moral integrity of students.</p>
<p>My small suggestion (now I myself would have probably done the same thing as u've done--lying--if I found myself in ur consideration although I don't have that much courage to venture into such a risky task) Face it, since u've alreadly lied, look out for some way which can bring a quick end to this matter (may be some more juicy lies or sth) But if there's no chance at all like that, then I suggest u to call a sorta meeting w/ ur princi, guidance counselor and teacher and admit ur mistake 'emotionally' :) That should work. Tell abt everything that ur telling here---under pressure, personally don't like the boring class, peer presssure etc. etc.
It's certainly been a great lesson for u, isn't it? I don't really think it's possible anymore to mend the broken glass, ur teacher, gc or princi can never look at u as the same innocent all A student anymore, but if u do admit it, they might sympathize u. do accept whatever punishment they give u.</p>
<p>I hope that you all understand that this thread is most likely not a true story. The public school would have notified the parents or legal guardian;and in many,if not most,jurisdictions,notification of the parents is required by law. Interesting thread to note the differences in the working of adult vs. teenage minds. Most teens were for forgiveness and leniency,possibly envisioning themselves in the same circumstances. Cleary this thread shows why our courts have judges who handle only juvenile (below age 18) cases.</p>
<p>just a little something..... a private school in my area had a similiar situation and here in a nutshell is what happened:</p>
<p>2 boys stole a test left on a teachers desk. They gave the answer key to 6 other kids so all 8 had the answer key. Somehow the teacher realized the test had been taken or handled and purposely changed a certain 6 questions as a "trap" to see who put the wrong answers and sure enough all 8 were caught in the act. 2 pleaded guily and were immediately expelled in THEIR SENIOR YEAR!! the other 6 smart in that they lied through their teeth, as weird as that sounds got suspended for 2 weeks since theoretically they could not prove they stole the tests. What kills me here is that the two that were honest and upfront ended up getting it the worst! I can't believe a school would do that to kids in their last year of school? Their college future is fried. I think what they did was BAD but I really don't think they should have been expelled, just suspended and maybe a lot of community service every weekend to not give them as much free hang out time. So this may make you feel a teeny weeny bit better to know you only have to worry about rec letters and not where you are going to finish your senior year!</p>