<p>SAT and this whole scores business sucks and is really stressful.
I took the SAT I and SAT IIs in early 2010 and did really awesome. I even had Columbia as one of the score recipients (free to send 4 score reports, yay!).</p>
<p>But I wanted to do awesomer. So stupid me tries again in November and gets a lower score. IN EVERY SECTION. But I had NO university listed as a score recipient. And I haven't sent that score to anybody.</p>
<p>So, I applied to SEAS. Still haven't sent the November scores. I don't want to spend any more money. I'm done with SATs. But, will this affect admissions?</p>
<p>Edit: Oh and also something else that is on mind: Do they look at my SAT essay? I admit, it sucked really bad. Really really bad. But I worked so hard on my Common App essay. Will they look at it and throw away my application because of the the discrepancies between writing skills. I improved a lot from early 2010 to December 30 (when I wrote my Common App Essay).</p>
<p>“Columbia has always expected applicants to report all required standardized testing for which they have sat and will continue to do so for 2010-2011…Students should officially submit all scores from all sittings of the SAT and SAT Subject Tests.”</p>
<p>You are playing with fire by electing not to follow the very explicit instructions from Columbia, especially because Columbia will look only at your higher SAT scores. Why would you risk rejection for intentionally failing to follow directions? More importantly, why would you want to so clearly demonstrate a lack of integrity?</p>
<p>I don’t want to spend 10 dollars for scores that have already been sent. And I don’t see a reason why they want the new scores; it’s a matter of principle.
But just wondering…will they know?</p>
<p>I agree with Joso here, I don’t see how Columbia, or anybody else for that matter would know you had taken them, unless they are printed on your transcript. If they are, however, you MUST send them to Columbia and all of the other schools that require all scores, or they WILL bin your app. They are VERY serious about this if it shows up, but the only way I can see them ever knowing about it is if it’s on your SSR. (I know my school types them onto the back still, but maybe others don’t, so definitely check that before neglecting to send the scores)</p>
<p>Okay so my school printed me out a copy of my transcript just so that I have it for my records. They stamped unofficial on it. But looking closely at the transcript, they did not list the SAT scores. (If they did, they didn’t tell me then).</p>
<p>More info:
Here is what I found on College Board’s Website:
"Q: What if students do not abide by a college’s or university’s score-use practice?</p>
<p>A: As a matter of integrity, students are expected to follow college admissions policies, and the same is true with respect to a student’s sending of test scores to colleges. Students are responsible for complying with the admissions requirements of the colleges, universities, and scholarship programs to which they apply.</p>
<p>Q: Is there a loophole that allows colleges to “opt out” of Score Choice?</p>
<p>just another point to consider: i don’t remember where i read/heard it, but someone from columbia told me they prefer to have all scores, or so they CLAIM, because they don’t want people getting mixed up with scores… or something like that. even so, sending the score to them won’t change anything; they mean it when they say they evaluate you only on your highest scores. </p>
<p>along with my best scores for SAT I & II’s, I had a couple others that were badddd and they didn’t hurt me at all</p>
<p>I’m with pbr here. There is a reason colleges ask for certain things and since it was explicitly stated by Columbia that they want all scores, failure to do so shows that 1) you don’t follow instructions and 2) you don’t care about their rules and policies, both things a college wouldn’t want in a freshman.</p>
<p>Seriously, it’s $10. Is your future at Columbia worth less than $10?</p>
<p>i’m sorry but this is blatantly dishonest. i took the sat 3 times, doing worse on the second time. i sent all my sat 1 scores. i took the math 2 twice, doing worse the second time. guess what? i still sent both scores. i thought uchicago did score choice, but when collegeboard said it didn’t, guess what? i trusted collegeboard and sent all my scores. this is about integrity. you probably won’t get caught. then again, you probably won’t get in either anyway</p>
<p>Yes, if you sat for the SAT I you must report it to Columbia and any other school which requires it. if your ACT scores are better than your SAT I, then they won’t look at the SAT, but they still want to see it.</p>
<p>hey OP,
I don’t think the reason youre not sending the score is because of spending extra money. I mean, if you’ve applied to Columbia, you’ve applied to some other colleges right (just an assumption here…) what’s 10 dollars more going to do? You’re doing it because you don’t want the lower scores to negatively affect your admission.</p>
<p>But you can rest assured because they WON’T. The reason Columbia wants extra scores is for their OWN SCORE CHOICE. For example, if a student receives 500 cr, 800 m, 500 w in like 9th grade, but taking it again gets 790 cr, 770 m, 790 w, of course the student would send in second one…but if they are required to send in all, then columbia can use the 800 m as well as the higher scores in the other 2 sections (as least that’s the way it was before this year’s common app allowed u to put in best scores…)</p>
<p>I also took the SAT twice…the first time I got a 2100, second time 2260. I sent in both (as I was required by Columbia) … so dude don’t worry it won’t negatively report you. The fact that you considered “misrepresenting” yourself by knowningly opting out of it though is kind of low, though…</p>
<p>There is no way they looked at my pathetic SAT essay and deferred me. I don’t think they look at SAT essays, although I have heard that the opposite is true for Princeton.</p>
<p>^ yeah SAT essays are way overrated…I’ve known ppl who got 2’s in AP English exam (which is a much better indicator) and get 12’s on the essays, while ppl who have gotten 5’s on AP English Exam get 8’s on SAT writing…</p>
<p>Although on Collegeboard site under columbia, it says columbia uses SAT writing to verify Common App essay…whatever that means -.-</p>
<p>They will know. Your scores are always included in your official transcript record from EVERY standardized test you took. Unofficial copies won’t include your board scores, but the official ones will. If you don’t send them ALL, they’ll know you are trying to hide a bad result. They use the best score anyway.</p>