<p>4.2 weighted gpa (3.85ish un)
top 7% class (all A's except B's in Algebra and C in Precalc (ouch i know!))
sat 2120 (reading- 730, writing- 740, math 650), take them again?
sat2: USHist- 800 math2c and spanish were very very bad but i am going to</p>
<p>2002 National Geographic Bee state champ, nat qualifier
freshman social studies award, also junior social studies award
most speaker point by a novice for debate- also some other small awards
outstanding delegate at UCF KNIGHTMUN (model UN) conf.
Semis in PF at Blue Key Natl Debate</p>
<p>-founder and prez of model un for 4yrs
-debate for 3yrs
-national hon soc, spanish nat hon soc, eng nat hon soc (i'll will be the -chairman of peer tutoring)
-was in Teengage republicans and volunteered for bush- but ive had a change of heart and im now a democrat
-numerous leadership postions in my Boy Scot Troop
-Eagle Scout
-Order of the arrow scouyting honer society (ceremonies team)
-junoir class council
jv and varsity tennis- (9, 10,)
rotoary club youth ldrship awards...</p>
<p>part time job at YMCA in the child develptment area- working with kids ages 6 months to 11years old, about 15 hours per week</p>
<p>jimbob: SEAS is Penn's Engineering school, School of Engineering and Applied Science; CAS is the College of Arts and Sciences, M & T refers to a Jerome Fishers Management and Technology program</p>
<p>Stats:
* SAT: 800v, 650m, 760wr. 2210 all together
* SAT IIs: 760 Amer. Hist, 710 Bio
* GPA: 3.8
* Rank: 34/278
* Other stats: IB diploma candidate</p>
<p>Subjective:
* Essays: Good.
* Teacher Recs: Excellent
* Counselor Rec: Good I would expect
* Hook (if any): Artist/Writer/Animator/Movie Maker. Taught myself video editing, digital graphics, animation, movie making. Finalist, NJ Governor's School - Creative Writing. Written novels, short stories, plays, movie scripts. Strong art portfolio. Published comics to web.</p>
<p>Location/Person:
* State or Country: NJ
* School Type: Public (very competitive)
* Ethnicity: White/Jewish
* Gender: M</p>
<p>Other Factors:
4 years high honor roll, National Merit Scholarship Letter of Commendation, President - Film Club, 4 years Forensics, 4 years acting, Improv, Comedy Night, Art Club, French Club.</p>
<p>General Comments:
The thing that really gets me is that there doesnt seem to be any consistency to the Accept/Defer/Reject decisions. Kids with great stats and ECs got rejected or deferred, kids with so-so stats and ECs got accepted, and vice versa. What are we all to make of this? How do the AdComs make their decisions? What is it that really counts? Sigh Would be nice to know.</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT Verbal: 690
[</em>] SAT Math: 800
[<em>] SAT Writing: 720
[</em>] SAT II: 800 Spanish, 760 USH, 750 Math II
[<em>] ACT: n/a
[</em>] AP/IB taken/scores: 5 AP Calc AB, 4 AP English Lang., 4 APUSH
[<em>] GPA weighted: 4.2
[</em>] GPA unweighted: unknown
[li] Rank or % estimate: Top 10%</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: Good
[</em>] Teacher Recs: Good
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Good, I assume
[</em>] Hook (if any): None</p>
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: Pennsylvania
[</em>] School Type: Private/Catholic
[<em>] Ethnicity: Caucasian and Native American (Seneca)
[</em>] Gender: Male
[<em>] Legacy: No
[</em>] Recruited: No
[li] Important ECs: Senior Class President, NHS President, Young Democrats Club Founder[/li] [/ul] General Comments/Congratulations/etc: Congrats to all my future classmates!</p>
<p>Hey, sorry to post my stats this late. I was busy with other things, and besides, I needed a couple of day to take in the reality before posting. Honestly, I'm still very shocked and still envisioned this as a dream....</p>
<p>*Decision: Accepted *</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT: 2060 - 660V, 720M, 680W
[</em>] SAT IIs: 700 Math IIC, 640 USH (I thought my SAT IIs would be my downfall, but I guess they were still good enough)
[<em>] GPA: 3.95 UW (my school doesn't offer AP or honors courses)
[</em>] Rank: 1 out of 28
[<em>] Other stats (ECs, APs, Etc.): Newspaper Editor, coordinated a hurricane relief fundraiser that netted over $1700. Chorale, sports
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] Essays: I thought my WhyPenn essay was kind of generic, but I did incorporate some humor and wit into it. My autobiography essay was very serious and about how I overcame adversity.
[<em>] Teacher Recs: Great (they were all rooting for me)
[</em>] Counselor Rec: Great (my principal and I are good pals)
[<em>] Hook (if any): I've lived in the Marshall Islands (small island nation from Survivor) and Palau (another small island nation) for a total of 7 years. First student from my school to apply to Penn and probably to the Ivies (not sure about the latter)
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[</em>] State or Country: Honolulu, Hawaii
[<em>] School Type: Private - Christian
[</em>] Ethnicity: Chinese
[li] Gender: Male[/li][/ul]Other Factors: My history was pretty unique, and I guess that was my hook for getting in. I also participated in everything my small high school has to offer. General Comments: I thought my scores were too low and thought maybe they would be my downfall. After I'd submitted my app, there were some unfortunate things that'd happened to me and my app that caused me a lot of anxiety and discouragement. For one, I took my SAT IIs (first time) on my senior trip to Cali and was sick when I took it. For another, my transcript wasn't sent until Nov. 28th. There were some others, but I don't wanna sound like a whiner because I should be happy right now. Congrats to everyone who got in. Good luck to all those who got deferred/rejected, hope you guys can bounce back and do an awesome job on your other apps.
I wanna make some friends here before I go to college, so let's get better acquainted!</p>
<p>That's the first thing I thought about when I found out that I got accepted. They probably saw something good in my essays.
Interestingly, I thought my essays were junk at first, but I'm such a perfectionist with high standards that I think a lot of good stuffs are junk. So I guess my essays did work after all....</p>
<p>I agree with gmman. They are looking for the personality within the application and the essays are where you show that you are more than just numbers.</p>
<p>Yes, stats are all over the place here, but I still say you can see patterns and trends. You can spot the auto admits ( those with stats high enough that hooks don't matter), as well as the diversity of students from various regions and backgrounds. It's all pretty fascinating, really.</p>
<p>For some people you can't tell what their hook is at all. It might have been something in their recs, background or essay, and might not be too obvious on first glance. But for the most part, I wasn't too surprised. Anyone else feel that way?</p>
<p>I don't know what to think...I think it's mostly the FEEL they get from your essays (which is much more important than what you say or how eloquently you say it). I think this is the #1 thing, much more important than recs - both of my teachers told me the rec they wrote for me was significantly better than the rec they wrote for any other student but that didn't seem to matter.</p>
<p>And collegecountdown, there are no "auto admits" based on stats - I think there was a greater % of people on this board rejected w/ 2300+ than 2100-2200.</p>
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<p>Oh, and you guys that think your essays got you in...</p>
<p>I had really high stats, etc. so presumably my essays kept me out. Would you mind trading essays via PM to help me see where you guys went right & I went wrong?</p>
<p>there has to be some consistency. An admissions officer won't just reject a higher score for a lower score for no reason. This is proof that a SAT score will not get you into college. It's a mix of GPA, class difficulty, ECs, leadership, and the list goes on. </p>
<p>And with the info that kids posted, you just can't tell how passionate a person is about his/her ECs and how strong they are in that area... You have to be with them in their real lives to know how much time they put into each of their activities...</p>
<p>I'm also getting the feeling that they place more importance on the subjective part of the application, like your personality, motivation, and interests, rather than on cold hard numbers. And I think this is very positive because I personally don't believe SATs are an accurate measure of intelligence or ability. I only took the test once and got a 2080 which was "awesome" among my friends but is quite below average in CC. Still, I didn't take the test again, I just focused on other parts of the application and I guess it paid off-- I got in! :)</p>