I feel like I should have enrolled in a CC?

<p>Hello all. I've scoured much of the forums, and have found many success stories for transfer applicants to great schools. I have entertained the possibility of transferring to my dream schools after I was initially rejected (that is a whole story to itself). However, the more I learn about the transfer process, along with the resources and preferences available to certain students, the more I feel like attending my current school (UCSB) was a mistake. </p>

<p>I have two options: Finish my GE's here, so when it comes time to transfer, I can acquire a letter of reciprocity from my school. However, I understand that CC students have higher priority among the applicant pool. </p>

<p>The other option is dropping out, re-enrolling at a CC back home, and hope to be noticed by a UC affiliated program that will boost my acceptance chance. However, I'm hesitant to pursue this line of thought since I'm unsure as to what consequences it could have on my current goal to switch majors. </p>

<p>Thoughts on what any of y'all would do?</p>

<p>There is no harm in graduating from UCSB. It is going to depend more on you and your major than your school how successful you are. But if you have a great track record and a good academic reason to transfer then there is always the chance. I think dropping to a CC is a mistake. But what is this about a change in majors. Can’t you do that now, why do you have to plan to do it?</p>

<p>Lots of people feel this way their freshman year. Sometimes it takes the entire year to figure out that you actually like your choice. There were reasons you went there; try to remember them and see if those reasons are still valid. </p>

<p>Those dreams schools are still there and there’s nothing to stop you from going to one of them for graduate school. The fact is that it really doesn’t matter where you go undergrad, and that the undergrad experience is the same at most schools. There are things you like, and there are things you don’t. No one cares about the prestige of your u/g school but you. What matters is that you do the best you can and take advantage of all the opps UCSB offers you. </p>

<p>Transferring to an elite school is almost always more difficult and more expensive. You didn’t get in the first round; what makes you think you can get in by transferring when there are only a few seats available? Keep in mind, too, that your dream school might not be so dreamy. It could suck much worse than UCSB, which has, at the very least, the best sunsets west of the Florida keys. Seldom, too, is a CC better than UCSB.</p>

<p>Oh, I just noticed the forum handle. So you didn’t get accepted to any engineering dept and that is what you are aiming for? Are you interested in engineering or a dream school? </p>

<p>@BrownParent‌ </p>

<p>My background’s a bit muddled. The thing was, I never intended to go to college. I was one of (if not the) best students in my high school, and was well on the way to my dream school (Berkeley/Stanford). However, in the midddle of junior year so many things went down, and I let my hard work crumble around me while I did nothing. </p>

<p>You see, there were many deaths in my family that year. In addition, my father and sister were diagnosed with terminal illnesses, my brother fell deeper into his drug spiral, and my parents fought and abused each other daily. My father was laid off from his job and left us, and I couldn’t find a job no matter how much I searched. At the same, I had to manage taking a challenging class load, as well as my time in the school marching band, concert band, jazz band, jazz choir, and glee club (since they were all severely undermanned, and desperately needed help). Socially, I faced pressure to match the accomplishments of my sister, who managed to get a full ride to a private school in another state, and depression from being non-existent when placed next to my brother (who was “much cooler” than me). </p>

<p>As you can guess, I fell into the deepest pit of self loathing, pity, and depression that I ever faced. I’m not proud of what I did, or the thoughts that crossed my mind. I almost committed suicide, then later contemplated drugging myself to death. I was too cowardly to carry through with it and feared I might develop a dependency of drugs if I started, so I took to gaming. Hours upon hours, I played video games as an escapist source of comfort. My grades plummeted (I nearly failed half of my classes), my friends and family became worried, and I stopped caring about life in general. </p>

<p>Along came application and tests season. I only worked up the effort to take the SAT and ACT tests once, and didn’t study for them. I completely bombed the SAT II test. I sent out applications just because I felt I had nothing to lose. I also applied under physics, because that was my favorite subject at the time, and because I held no delusions that I would be accepted as an engineering major. I wasn’t surprised that my top schools rejected me, but I WAS surprised that some schools like UCSB and UCSD accepted me. Then came along another reality check: there was no way I would be able to go school without incurring a crap ton of debt. I never signed up for scholarships, and received only the bare minimum in financial aid. I lived in one of the most poverty stricken, crime riddled, dirtiest, and death struck areas of Los Angeles, so that financial aid was alright, but below half the cost of yearly attendance. Since I was not keen on incurring around ~$50k of debt, I completely gave up going to college. </p>

<p>Then came along the opportunity of a lifetime: the Gates Millennium Scholarship. My physics teacher forced me to apply, and wrote me a recommendation letter than could make you cry. A few months later, I received that thick envelope that was my ticket to a life I had almost sealed off. Suddenly, there was a comforting hand on my back that simply told me, “You can do anything you want.” I was ecstatic. I decided to attend UCSB because I heard it was a sunny, cheerful place, with a nice rep when it came to their research department. </p>

<p>There was a conference held not too long ago, for GMS scholars. I met various wonderful people, many of whom faced their own personal demons and came up victorious. I shared my story with them. Many of them told me I should pursue my original goal, engineering. They encouraged me to seek help, and I am proud to have met them. </p>

<p>Looking back at where I am now, I feel I left the latter duration of my high school career in shambles. If I was a stronger person, maybe I wouldn’t be where I am now. I have my dreams, out of reach as they might be. I’ve learned so much about the college system I never sought to learn before, all while trying to make up for the mistakes I made. </p>

<p>So…that’s basically it. I’m in a place I set myself up for, but not one I dreamed of being in. I’m in the wrong major, in a nice school I never truly feel is my own, but I’m going into overdrive to see if I can still be what I always wanted to be, in one of the schools I fantasized about as a younger child. </p>

<p>Oh wow, I just had continuous word vomit. Sorry about that, it feels nice to get it out in the open though. :)</p>

<p>Sorry you have such a rough time. It makes me think even more you are very fortunate, more than that, should be grateful and mindful. Mindful not to squander the opportunity. I have very little patience for dream school notions, sorry. Oh if I was only at my dream school everything would be different. Here you are scouring the forums instead of taking advantage of where you are and being the great sort of candidate that transfer schools and grad schools are happy to find. Instead you want to trade what you have for a CC and think that your success is all tied up in going backwards to CC because it just isn’t good enough for you. You believe in a school but not yourself, well I hate to tell you that wherever you are you take you with you and if you can’t find opportunities there then you can’t anywhere. There is nothing better than to stop dreaming and start living. Hope you wake up.</p>

<p>@BrownParent‌ </p>

<p>I realized I sounded ungrateful, I did not mean to do so. I was given a rare opportunity, and I don’t intend to squander it. I’m currently on track for a 4.0 (or a bit less, since that iffy +/- system is an actual thing here), I have joined various academic groups, regularly meet with teachers and advisers to talk and receive advice, started hunting for internships/research opportunities, volunteered to help out many groups and people, made nice friends, and much more. I don’t know if these are the qualities you meant in a “candidate that transfer schools and grad schools are happy to find”? </p>

<p>Also, you seem to be misinterpreting my words. Never have I stated that I felt this school isn’t “good enough” for me. This is a great school. I just haven’t felt that click that makes this place feel like a second home. I don’t know if that makes sense?</p>

<p>It does make sense, OP, but I’d bet half the students who graduate never felt that click with their schools. One reason alumni giving is so low. What are the characteristics of this dream school where you will click? how do you know this or that school has those characteristics–for certain, for you? </p>

<p>Is there something to stop you from majoring in engineering at UCSB? I’m confused about what you want and why you think a college can give it to you? Learn to live in the moment and place where you find yourself, OP, and you will find happiness much more easily. Remember: wherever you go, there you are.</p>

<p>I think some school counseling could be in order. UCSB offers students some psychological counseling, 5-10 visits, and it might be a good idea to check out those services. You had a horrific experience in h.s., and some of your feelings could be related to that.</p>

<p>@jkeil911‌ </p>

<p>In order to major in engineering from another major, I must take pre-requisite classes. The major problem lies in getting those classes- especially when I have to fight engineers for those classes. </p>

<p>And thanks, I have been considering seeing a counselor to see if some damage stuck. </p>

<p>What is your major?</p>

<p>It sounds like you were accepted into a physics major. Are you completely uninterested in physics? UCSB is a top school for that major and having a physics major can open opportunities for jobs in engineering or graduate school in engineering. You just need to select your elective courses judiciously.</p>

<p>@gearmom @xraymancs‌ </p>

<p>Currently, I am a physics major, yes. Don’t get me wrong- I love physics. Loved it since I first started learning it. However, I always wanted to be a computer engineer, since middle school. That puts me in a bit of a bind, as I am eager to pursue both branches. </p>

<p>I have considered double majoring, as the only constraint would be time and effort (as I have explained, finance is provided). However, I am not sure if many people have tried this and managed to come up victorious?</p>

<p>@xraymancs‌ </p>

<p>I have considered taking summer courses, as well as enrolling in online university sanctioned classes that can knock GE’s out early. Would you say that would be helpful if I decided to double major down the road?</p>

<p>You might be able to just go to grad school for computer engineering. Why don’t you minor in CS or CE and just get a job in a computer field that will pay for grad school for you.</p>

<p>I have a homework assignment for you. Check in with grad school and ask what additional courses you will need to take for admittance into a CE program. Ask for opinions in the Engineering forum here regarding going to grad school for CE (or if you even need to!) with a physics degree. Your career does not have to match your major. You still seem to be in a precarious situation financially. You need to complete something. Physics is useful and might even give you an edge in CE. The problem occurs when you have a BA and try to get a job in a technical field. Get a degree, get on your feet financially and have your work pay for more schooling if you need it.</p>

<p>Have you talked to the people at the College of Creative Studies? They have both CS and Physics degrees along with more flexibility. Perhaps you can double major that way?</p>

<p>Super endorse what @Ynotgo says. You may find your home there. You can enroll in up to 95 units a semester, if you can handle it. Second, yes, take care of pre-reqs for CS, and prepare applications next year to transfer to Stanford, Berkeley, or what-have-you. By the time the decisions come in, you will have options and will have matured into your studies enough to make a more informed decision.</p>

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Completely unrealistic advice. As a physics major you will have taken none of the electrical engineering courses needed for a CE degree. Without those you are not going to understand any of the grad courses. Here are the courses you’d miss out on: <a href=“https://www.ce.ucsb.edu/undergrad/curriculum/plan/”>https://www.ce.ucsb.edu/undergrad/curriculum/plan/&lt;/a&gt; </p>

<p>UCSB must have an undergrad engineering advisor. Go talk to her/him about the best way to pursue your goals.</p>