<p>Congrats Token!! </p>
<p>So many haters on this board....</p>
<p>there's a couple people that i think are a little jealous, but that's only natural. most people seem genuinely happy for me.
good luck to everybody</p>
<p>token89
Do you know the minimum time for 100M, 200M, 400M times in harvard or ivy recruiting?</p>
<p>there's no minimum time that i know of. different teams are looking for different things. i.e i doubt that i'd ever have a chance at getting recruited for the 100 at yale considering they have three guys that run sub 10.8, but harvard is rebuilding so they're willing to recruit a 11.1 guy.
i'd say look at the results from heps last year. if your times are competitive with the best guys at the school ur interested in, go for it.</p>
<p>i even found the link for you
Men's</a> Track and Field at Ivy Heptagonals - PennAthletics.comThe Official Website of University of Pennsylvania Athletics</p>
<p>I want to congradulate you and welcome you to the Harvard family.</p>
<p>Regards,
Brandon Ruse
Faculty of Arts and Sciences DCE (working towards ALB-Sciences)</p>
<p>Congratulations, and I think it must be great to relax for the rest of the year!</p>
<p>I think that the resentment expressed in some posts is not at all personal, but reflects feelings about the dominance of sports in our culture. I am not sure if athletes are the only group getting "likely" letters, but the "likely" letters certainly seem more "likely" for athletes.</p>
<p>It may be hard for people who work hard in other fields of endeavor, whether the arts or service or academics, to react to the preference shown to athletes in this way, in a way that is palatable.</p>
<p>The truth is, that admissions is driven by the same principles of the marketplace that rule American culture in general. Recruiting athletes early= better success for college teams= happier alumni(ae) =more donations. When recruiting actors, musicans or writers, or even just all around good people, means more money, then they will also receive "likely" letters.</p>
<p>I'm not being cynical, just realistic, and trying to take the personal out of some of the negativity here. Given that this site presumably draws Harvard applicants, I would expect more sophisticated reactions to your good news.</p>
<p>Enjoy your good fortune, but keep it in perspective, and continue to honor feelings of those who are still waiting.</p>
<p>All this "enroll at Tufts and get a taste of how the other half studies" and "Harvard is and will remain will remain the most famous university in the world" is very revealing commentary... I'm glad people are proud of Harvard for all the right reasons.</p>
<p>Congratulations!!!</p>
<p>token89
Is your 11.17 FAT?
And what's heps?</p>
<p>yeah 11.17 is was FAT. heps is the ivy league championships.
thanks to all you guys for your nice comments - especially compmom.
it's nice to finally relax, but i'm not taking my foot off the gas at all. i still have to keep up my grades. not to mention, track season hasn't even gotten here. i can't wait to break 11.</p>
<p>I’m sorry but I’ll be sincere here. You did not have good SAT’s at all, or a good GPA. I sincerely think that this is UNFAIR. There are plenty of kids who worked harder and got 2350’s , 4.4’s, and are Asian who do as much EC as you do and get rejected from ALL the IVs. This is Affirmative Action in Action, sorry to say, but if you were white or asian you probably would have gone to state.</p>
<p>^Way to revive a long-dead thread, caulfield1. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>And there’s an actual “Race” thread where you can whine and moan as long as you want.</p>
<p>By the way, here’s the link: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/927219-race-college-admission-faq-discussion-8-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/927219-race-college-admission-faq-discussion-8-a.html</a>. Enjoy!</p>
<p>To caulfield- this wasn’t affirmative action, it was athletic recruiting of a highly qualified sprinter. If you can run 100 meters in under 11.1 seconds, and still have good scores, you can be accepted, regardless of race. Good luck.</p>
<p>If you want a school devoid of great Div. I athletes, try Caltech or UChicago.</p>
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<p>Not a good reason to revive this thread.</p>
<p>I think it’s nice to see this thread revived! Kudos to Token for a taking full load of AP classes, achieving solid test scores all while training 30+ hours per week to reach such a high level of athletic success. You earned it, congratulations.</p>
<p>People hating on sports is ridiculous.</p>
<p>If he had a national award in Science people would consider that to be a fantastic EC. If he was an artist known nationally for his work people would consider that to be a fantastic EC. If he was a reasonably successful writer or etc. people would consider that to be a fantastic EC.</p>
<p>But because he’s a Division 1-caliber sprinter–a non-academic honor–people seem to downgrade the honor.</p>
<p>Its a huge deal to play Football-Basketball-Track (which, in most non-LAX places, are the three biggest sports), and requires a tremendous commitment of both mind and body. Football and Basketball are the pressure sports, the ones that draw the largest following–at least where I’m from.</p>
<p>I realize this thread is really old, but this guy actually has a very good application with the exception of his GPA, even if you don’t consider his recruitment status (imagine he has a national award in Science or Engineering instead) or race.</p>
<p>^ I agree with some of your post and I’m an athlete myself but I can also understand why people are against recruited athletes at Ivy’s. The priority of these schools is obviously academic excellence and this is evidenced by the higher academic standards that Ivy recruits are held to in comparison to recruited athletes at other schools. As a result, the athletes recruited by Ivy’s aren’t particularly impressive in their given sport and are almost always weaker in terms of academics than other students at the school. I’ve seen many people argue that Ivy League schools should either attempt to draw the highest talent in athletics or not recruit at all, and that the current situation results in student-athletes that do not excel in athletics or academics. Of course these are generalizations as the athletes in certain sports at Ivy’s are certainly of the highest quality, but the sweeping message is very true for several sports.</p>
<p>Congratulations! :)</p>
<p>I have a question, if I used to be a good swimmer (ex. placing in state, training at the Olympic Training Center, qualifying for Jr Nationals and the Grand Prix, etc) and had a pretty good chance of getting recruited for a D1 college team, but then got severely injured in a car crash in the middle of junior year, would I still have a good change of getting into Harvard regularly, based on my past? </p>
<p>To elaborate, I still swim, but since I took of so much time for my injury and am still not physically able to train at the level that I used to, I am not as fast as I previously was. Some colleges continue to recruit me, like Kenyon, MIT, and UPenn, but that may be based on my old stats. Would I be able to “walk on” to a team like Harvard’s?</p>
<p>I know that my chances of being recruited are now very slim, but I was just wondering if all the hours and dedication I put into my sport, while maintaining great grades and extracurriculars, would still pull any weight in the admissions process. And I really hope to continue to swim in college. </p>
<p>Thanks for your input 
It is really appreciated.</p>