<p>Barely anyone with perfect scores gets accepted. You have a low chance with a less-than-stellar record. </p>
<p>tnxs @bumblebees </p>
<p>bumblebees is mocking you, you know</p>
<p>didimos, you sound like an earnest young student, but I hope you’ll draw a lesson from the strong negative reactions you’ve elicited on this board. Your presentation style comes across as arrogant and is off-putting. That can be a deadly sin when trying to persuade AdComs to want to choose you. Moreover, your diction is at times awkward and strained (especially for someone self-professing “an exceptional writing talent”). Perhaps English is not your first language. If it is not, you have a lot about which to be justly proud, but you have some glaring weaknesses to address as well – starting with a lack of humility. </p>
<p>Finally, you observe that “[y]ou can clearly see the green dots even under the 3.0 GPA margin line. As I have read these kind of students aren’t even compared with the whole applicant pool, they are simply compared with the students of similar remarkable talents, therefore have a great chance of getting accepted.I am talking about the whole holistic admission thing and how it benefits me more than any body.” </p>
<p>I’m sure you are aware that admitted students who fall into those extreme ranges offer something of significant and scarce value to the University. More often than not, I would guess, those candidates are recruited athletes who perform at a national or international level, and are pursued to help lead a varsity team chase an Ivy league championship. That is not you. Instead, you are an author of an novel that you hope to have published. It may be a fine book and it’s success, if it is in fact published and well received, may lead you to many exciting places in your life. Unfortunately, with a 3.0 GPA I would be completely shocked if it leads you to HYP. Best of luck regardless. </p>
<p>Are you self publishing your book? There’s a lot of that going on, by a lot of people who believe that they have exceptional writing talent. A small number of them do. An even smaller number will find sales success, because self-publishers have to have great marketing ability (and yes, even those published by traditional presses are expected to market these days.)</p>
<p>Unless a publishing company is paying you to publish your book, I wouldn’t think that it would be of any real meaning to a college admissions counselor.</p>
<p>What you are saying about the scattergram is interesting – I hadn’t even bothered to look at what OP was citing. I hope he will understand that this group is not looking to be unduly harsh, but rather looking to give him a cold dose of reality so he can manage his expectations accordingly.</p>
<p>The truth is that a 3.0 GPA is just too low to be competitive. I do not doubt your accomplishments since they are very impressive. The kids who get in with GPAs like that are highly recruited athletes (and even then its difficult-for that range they must really be an international star), or developmental admits (people who donate 20 million ext…). There are plenty of great universities where you may have a decent shot. I would try USC, NYU, and any university in the 25-50 range. These schools are all amazing and in all honesty, provide a better education than you would receive in your own country or in many countries. Then, you can do good in undergrad and apply to HYPS in grad school. I would apply, but then I would forget about them.</p>
<p>Best of Luck- I am sure attending a top 30 school or top 35 will provide you with innumerable opportunities and besides if your as smart as your standardized test scores claim, you will have no problem out scoring the other kids in these schools.</p>
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So you were too sick to work hard enough to achieve a better GPA, but not too sick to do all that? This isn’t coming close to convincing me–how will it convince the admissions committee? And will your school counselor be able to verify that your low GPA is solely the result of your illness? Because your saying so won’t be enough.</p>
<p>@T26E4 I know he did! And I guess I mocked him back.
@moneymom I am not a self published writer
@MommaJ Seriously you don’t know what I’ve been through and only I know how I did all those things.</p>
<p>And for all of you who still think I am not humble please try to read all my posts first. Don’t just jump into a judgement. I don’t expect this from elder people like you.</p>
<p>But above all I have found something that would make all of you in this site think again!!!</p>
<p>just watch the following video.(at least after the 8th minute)
It was prepared by a student with stats like mine.
<a href=“What Colleges DON'T Want You to Know About Admissions - YouTube”>What Colleges DON'T Want You to Know About Admissions - YouTube;
He was a HS football player though not a national or an international one. [ @Heights] After this I’m sure you will start to question yourself and why you confidently said the following
"I’m sure you are aware that admitted students who fall into those extreme ranges offer something of significant and scarce value to the University. More often than not, I would guess, those candidates are recruited athletes who perform at a national or international level, and are pursued to help lead a varsity team chase an Ivy league championship. That is not you. Instead, you are an author of an novel that you hope to have published. It may be a fine book and it’s success, if it is in fact published and well received, may lead you to many exciting places in your life. Unfortunately, with a 3.0 GPA I would be completely shocked if it leads you to HYP. Best of luck regardless. "</p>
<p>@Heights …And I promise you you will be shocked after a few months.lol
^^this goes to you too @spuding102</p>
<p>This boy was at THE BOTTOM 5%OF HIS CLASS ,GOT NEARLY PERFECT SATs, is a very good football player but neither at national nor at international level.But he got into COLUMBIA and CORNELL. I hope this video changes all your views on this topic. And just not to be so proud of myself but don’t you think I have got better stats and hooks than him?</p>
<p>And just be humble in your comments too guys.
KEEP ON POSTING
thanks! </p>
<p>Umm, ok. </p>
<p>And by the way, the student in the video explains that he was admitted as recruited athlete. Which previously expressed view was that supposed to change? </p>
<p>So who’s the liaison who is going to speak to schools on your behalf?</p>
<p>I think for me the fact that I have known this thing is extremely possible is enough.</p>
<p>@Sue22 I guess my counselor will do.</p>
<p>I would suggest that we all stop wasting time with OP, who has come to this and multiple other pages on the forum seeking validation of his worldview but not real advice. </p>
<p>I think for me the fact that I have known this thing is extremely possible is enough.
don’t you think @Heights </p>
<p>@Sue22 I guess my counselor will do.</p>
<p>There’s only one half-way intelligent thing you’ve stated in your posts, as poorly written as even that was: “Now with this stats [sic] I don’t think I could get in to Yale. . .” Let’s leave it at that. I won’t be replying further and I encourage others not to either.</p>
<p>So, my last post strikes me as too harsh. Here’s the deal: Do I think this thing is “extremely possible?” No, of course I don’t. Yale has a 6% admit rate, so the chances of being admitted are not “extremely possible” even for a student with 2400, 4.0 and extraordinary ECs. Am I saying you should not apply and take your chances? Certainly not. Go for it. But this group is trying to tell you that, in the context of making plans for the future, you would be well served to have some real viable backup options, because there are some serious deficiencies in your profile as an applicant and you’re writing (in English at least) is quite poor. Can you overcome those deficiencies and present a compelling application? Who knows, but I certainly wouldn’t be premising my own view based on a scattergram that show 2 admitted students with sub-3.0 GPAs. You very likely will not be admitted. That is the cold, hard truth for you and for 94 out of every 100 applicants who apply. Good luck to you.</p>
<p>*your</p>
<p>You should apply wherever you want to apply. The college will either accept you or reject you. It doesn’t matter what people here say. However, the people who have responded to you have attempted to temper your enthusiasm for your own value with a dose of reality. I’m still a bit confused by your statement regarding being a published writer, since you say that you “hope” to publish this summer. If you have a contract for publication, but the book hasn’t come out yet, you should state that fact. Otherwise, your posts come off sounding like, “I wrote a book and I know it’s amazing, because, you know, I’m so insanely talented that I have written a literary masterpiece, which is a thriller, and even though I know 99.9% of thrillers are not considered literary fiction, mine is, and I’m sure that the first publishing company I send it to will give me at least a 6 figure advance.”</p>
<p>It’s difficult to distinguish between true success and pipe dreams with the information you have provided.</p>
<p>We’re not being harsh enough. A 3.0 on a 4.0 scale is indicative of your academic and intellectual shortcomings. You will struggle at Yale simply because you’re not a quality student; you clearly don’t care about your academic pursuits, so why would that change in college? Also, don’t compare yourself to RECRUITED athletes. They provide a tremendous value to Yale that you, certainly, will not.</p>