I JUST spoke to Berkeleys director of admissions.....

<p>lol ya its an awsome location i love the atmosphere</p>

<p>xcb. i think you're at the wrong forum.</p>

<p>you want to be at <a href="http://www.break.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.break.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>OK I think XCB has withdrawn from the fray. Let not kick him whiles he's down.</p>

<p>Dissadvantaged students unite! J/k</p>

<p>In my college, some of our Profs never give ESL students A. Their theory is : Your English is not good enough to get an A. Like in our HIST class, even if you spend much more time than whites on their courses, and get A's in every single test, your final grade is still a B!
Everybody has his own standard of fair/unfair, what can we say?</p>

<p>"I dont think people lice XBC, even realize what it takes to come to a new country, or what it means to have your parents change countires, and how all that impacts your livelyhood and your views and opportunities about your future."</p>

<p>Please, don't try to pull that "coming to America is hard" nonsense with me. If you read my earlier posts which were deleted by the moderators along with a 1000+ post thread, I moved here LEGALLY with my parents in the 90s, with a combined net worth of a few thousand dollars. English is my THIRD language. Today, I am able to pay (out of my own pocket) for all but one of the colleges I applied to without any grants or other handouts.</p>

<p>What SICKENS me are these people who play the victim part day and night, all the while sucking on the state and federal tit.</p>

<p>I can give you plenty of examples of the lower standards for nonwhite "ESL" students from every nonobjective CC class I went to. Everyone knows it exists, but of course, any discussion that may offend nonwhites is abruptly ended and the dissenters silenced. </p>

<p>AzN Pryde! "Hooray!"
MexiCan Pryde! "Hooray!"
White pride! "YOU RACIST BASTARD!"</p>

<p>What an education you are all in for. Best of luck.</p>

<p>well getting into devry is not that expensive to pay for haha</p>

<p>jeez, what a moron...</p>

<p>"well getting into devry is not that expensive to pay for haha"</p>

<p>Yeah, seriously, what a moron! Writing efficiently doesn't mean fusing two conflicting sentences together, ESL champ.</p>

<p>xcb, no one on this board likes you, why are you still here?</p>

<p>are you a looser with no life that gets off on starting pathetic arguments on message boards?</p>

<p>Mastery of a lanugage is not a measure of intelligence, you most of all should know this.</p>

<p>xcb, whites are allowed to have community groups without being condemned racist. Asian student unions, latino student unions, african-american clubs are uniting under their respective countries. Their equivalent isn't a "white pride" club. It would be Euro club, french clubs, United swedish and etc. That is why those clubs exist and are never condemned racist. A "white pride" group unites based soley on a person's skin and not their heritage.</p>

<p>and if a white person wants to join the African-American Club he can do so...but could a black guy join the KKK? lol I think not</p>

<p>haha... Citan... you got a great sense of humor...</p>

<p><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5219349%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5219349&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>black guy joins the KKK lol.</p>

<p>Lindaweng: "In my college, some of our Profs never give ESL students A. Their theory is : Your English is not good enough to get an A. Like in our HIST class, even if you spend much more time than whites on their courses, and get A's in every single test, your final grade is still a B!
Everybody has his own standard of fair/unfair, what can we say?"</p>

<p>Do you have any data to back this annecdotal observation? I'm not taking sides, but that's a very extreme observation and I'm skeptical about its validity, unless you're leaving something important out.</p>

<p>I woldn't trust a word thats been said since page 3.</p>

<p>Do you think that being a racist is an automatic excommunication from collegeconfindential... because I am becoming one.... ;) Who will represent me at my CC.com expulsion hearing, or will I have to represent myself?</p>

<p>my cc english teachers are pretty fair about the grading... they all give oppotunities for us to rewrite (if needed)... there is no such thing as white or non-white...
I agree with what Matt said, "Mastery of a lanugage is not a measure of intelligence." I found it very true, especially in CA. ^^</p>

<p>Aww your "teacher" gave you a do over..... lol thats CC for ya!</p>

<p>He write this on syllabus. "If you are an ESL student, you will not get an A in this class because of your English language level" </p>

<p>It may understandable if he think the words we use in our essay is not strong enough to prove his essay topic. However, it also means it is even harder for ESL student to get a good grade.</p>