<p>I don't know who to talk to and I also don't have anyone to as I have less friends than the normal person. But here's the problem:
My friend isn't doing so well in classes and we both agreed that we should take the placement test and switch test so he can get placed higher. We got caught. The proctor took down our info and said to talk to the dean (will do on Monday, since the dean wasn't there today).
I am lost on what to do now(I usually browse this site but never registered until I had a problem, sorry).
I know the consequences are possible expulsion and I really don't want to get kicked out. I definitely regret doing this and now I feel that both our lives are over. We don't want to blame this on anybody because we know we're both at fault. Last thing I want to do is to be pit against each other. I don't want to lose my friend. I'm not sure what I should say to the dean besides the "Yes I know I ****ed up". I am willing to take the consequences as long as I don't get expelled, but at the same time, I think any consequence will bone me anyways. I'm sure the dean will see me as "another student trying to beat the system". I go to a community college and am trying to transfer but now it seems like I may end up in the streets.</p>
<p>Why in the world would you want to cheat on a placement exam?</p>
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<li><p>Never put yourself at risk for a friend, unless you are trying to save his life.</p></li>
<li><p>I advise that you be upfront with your dean. Admit that you both cheated, and what you did was wrong. Attempting to absolve yourself of any blame by proclaiming ignorance isn’t likely going to help your case. </p></li>
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<p>Good luck, and of course, it is never truly the end unless someone shoves a gun upon your face, prepared to blow your brains out.</p>
<p>When you talk with the Dean, tell the truth. Take responsibility for your stupid and dishonest action. Do not try to lie. Do not make excuses. </p>
<p>After dealing with the cheating and its consequence, you need to figure out why your need to have people like you is so strong that you are willing to make bad choices. Perhaps you can tell the Dean that you are going to take full personal responsibility for your character flaw and will begin counseling at the college’s counseling center. You need to find out why you are so emotionally needy that you are willing to lie and cheat just to have someone like you. Why don’t you stop into the counseling center today (if open) rather than wait until Monday.</p>
<p>No offense, but that doesn’t even make sense, to cheat on a placement test. Your friend will just do even worse and get more lost. But yeah, as everyone said, just own up to it, take full responsibility, and hope for the best.</p>
<p>You’re an absolute idiot- they should expel you just for being so dumb as to do this in the first place, even before rules violations.</p>
<p>You should basically just pack your bags now. You’re toast. Have fun flipping burgers, since no one will accept a transfer with academic dishonesty dismissal, and good luck finding a job either…</p>
<p>Waitwaitwait…
Your friend is bad at school, so you agreed to take a placement test for him so that he could place into even harder classes? how does that make any sense?</p>
<p>So… You fail at life?</p>
<p>And would your friend kindly return the favor? If because of this incident he becomes a multimillionaire, would he share the earnings? That is all…</p>
<p>Be honest with the Dean, explain your position as you see it, and be willing to take responsibility. Mercy smiles on those who are genuine in these situations.</p>
<p>You’re not an idiot, you’ve just made a mistake. We all do it in our different spheres of life. Hang in there and please update us with the resolution!</p>
<p>Own up. Plus, I think it’s a great suggestion to be proactive - i.e. go to the counseling center - and talk out your friend issues. Not only would this probably help you out personally, since you specifically stated you feel like you don’t have a lot of people to talk to, but you can show the dean that you’re being proactive in terms of trying to address the issues that would have contributed to you being dishonest (though certainly weren’t the CAUSE…cause was 1. own stupidity).</p>
<p>Your life is not over. Don’t worry. If you have decent grades and teachers that wern’t involved in this placement test fiasco, I am thinking you will be just fine. Own up to your mistake and hang in there.</p>
<p>As Roxsox and Bigtwix have already pointed out, your logic was so faulty it’s baffling. How would switching placement tests help you or your friend? If he sucks at the material, you’d end up in a dumbed down class while he’d be in a class that’s too hard for him.</p>
<p>In any case, I feel like since it was only a placement exam, you’ll both just have to retake it. Tomorrow when you’re talking to your dean be honest and be sorry.</p>
<p>The dean will do what he is going to do; just remain polite, catatonic, and do not say anything beyond ‘yes sir’ unless a question is explicitly asked. Also, play stupid; your memory of the event is hazy.</p>
<p>Just curious: how did the proctor discover you two switched tests? I assume you just wrote your friend’s name on your test and he did the same for you.</p>
<p>Well, its Monday and my friend told me that I’m not supposed to go talk to the dean unless they contact me first. I don’t know if thats the correct method or that I should go anyways.
He told me that he talked to his teacher about it and thats what he was told to do. He said nothing about my involvement. I really want to talk to the dean now and I can’t handle waiting. </p>
<p>To answer the questions:
the proctor: she checked our papers. I had his with me, his name already written and he had mine but the name wasn’t written yet.
the test switching: I give him my test so he can place higher. He struggles bad in his classes and he asked me to take it for him (we have a small circle of friends and within that circle, he is 1 of 2 of my friends who actually doesn’t think I’m weird). I not sure how that would work so he said to switch papers there and I agreed. On the test day, he had cold turkey and I asked him to switch because I made the promise. I didn’t need to take the test because I already took the test and couldn’t possibly place any higher.
Now that I think about it, I think its my fault for asking him to switch after he backed out.
I think I should take the blame.</p>
<p>Sorry for double posting but yes he would have placed into harder classes. I don’t know how that’ll work out but he said to trust him. I do help him study at times so I thought that I could do that. But even that is kind of hard sometimes as he has work and I’m looking for a job so I have more free time than he does.</p>
<p>what the hell were you thinking? To “help” someone who is doing bad in school, you take a placement test for him so that he can place into harder classes? That simply makes no sense. If someone sucks at school, how can it possibly help them to place into even harder classes?</p>
<p>^Yep.</p>
<p>And your story still doesn’t make much sense. You already took the test, but you two were switching tests. He was supposed to write your name, right? So, even if you hadn’t gotten caught as early as you did, you would have later because administration would have seen that you took the placement test twice (and scored significantly worse the second time).</p>
<p>Ok. I’m as baffled by what you did as are all the other posters. That said, the person who asked you to do this is NOT your friend. At this point, you should NOT be listening to your “friend” regarding what you should or should not do. </p>
<p>Tell the truth, but do NOT try to “cover” for your friend. It sounds as if that’s what you are planning to do. It’s a huge mistake. </p>
<p>Basically you’re trying to buy someone’s friendship. A friendship that is bought isn’t worth much, whether you pay for it with money, gifts, or doing something you know is wrong. </p>
<p>So, once again…stop listening to your 'friend" as to what you should/should not do. Do not talk to him about what the dean says. Do not tell him in advance what you plan to say. Do not listen to him when he tells you not to contact anyone until you are contacted. You should not be relying on him to tell you what you should do. </p>
<p>Lose this “friend.” He isn’t one.</p>
<p>He’s not your friend.</p>
<p>He’s trying to get you to do things that he thinks will help him (and he is apparently a very bad judge of what will help him) and that can only hurt you. It’s time to stop listening to him and it’s time to stop considering him a friend. Friends don’t do that. (You weren’t much of a friend either, to push him to go through with the plan when he was having second thoughts. Not only was it wrong, but it was a very stupid plan that could only have hurt him as well.)</p>
<p>Go talk to the dean. Admit that you were wrong to agree to this plan and wrong to carry it through, and accept whatever consequences result from your actions. Don’t try to shift blame to the other person, but don’t cover for him either. And learn from this. I have doubts about whether he is capable of learning from this episode, but I have more hope for you.</p>