I need to go to this school. What are my chances?

I am a sophomore in high school. Recently, I realized that I need to go to Harvard. My whole family escaped genocide in Cambodia and came to America for a better life. However, this “better life” has long been forgotten with survival. My family opened a donut shop when they came to America to make ends meet. They believed that once they were on their feet, they would be able to go to college and expand their reaches. They have been working in the same business just trying to survive for 40 years, and have forgotten the once unbreakable American facade of “freedom and opportunity”.

Now, why exactly do I need to go to Harvard? There are so many other colleges which offer the same opportunities, and I could achieve the same credentials at almost any place. I need to attend Harvard for two reasons: the ethical appeal and the proximity from my family. Although my family has been in America for decades, it has sort of secluded itself from Western influence. My family barely knows anything about Western traditions, and the only college they have EVER heard of is Harvard. They know it is the “best college” in America. If I went there, if I got into the “best college” in America, I feel like my family would begin to realize what they forgot. I believe that if I get accepted into Harvard, my family will remember their true intentions for coming to America and that our family is destined for greatness. Furthermore, since my family escaped mass murder together, you would think that my aunts and uncles would be extremely close. However, my family is plagued with internal strife. I will list them and possible ways that Harvard may impact the situation. My grandmother and uncle gamble every day of the week, to the point where I never see them anymore. However, there have been numerous attempts by my mom and aunt to dissuade them from this horrible habit. If I go to Harvard, I feel as if they could reassess the situation and compare themselves to me and wish to change. With Harvard, I will start with my family then change the world. I wish to major in neuroscience. Sure, I will make a decent amount of money but I am not one of those people who becomes president of an organization just to put it on my resume. I will win a nobel prize from my developments in addiction, Alzheimers, and Tourette’s syndrome. (I have minor tourette’s syndrome and have already done a lot of research into it, but I will not go into this because many people have it much worse than I do. Why complain when I can fix it?) Next, I have two amazing cousins who have indecent parents. When I was in 5th grade, my reading level was barely at 9th grade standards. One of my cousin’s, however, was at an 11th grade level. They have amazing potential!!! Their parents are horrible, and neglect them and such. I recently saw one of their report cards and there were C’s! And the worst part: I volunteered to help them, and the parents got defensive and said they could raise their own children! I’ve found a small hole in their stubbornness. The stigma of all Asian parents: “who was the best child?”. If I get into Harvard, I am absolutely sure my mom will brag to her about it (even though the 4th paragraph… #joyluckclub). When she does, I believe that the little cousins and the parents will have competition and strive for greatness. The last one I will talk about are my two poor uncles. They are severely depressed, one is a gambling addict and one works in his donut shop just sitting 17 hours a day watching movies. As if this weren’t already bad enough, both are unmarried and have major gingivitis. One of them uncles can barely eat, and has lost 50 pounds in the past year. However, they are so depressed that they refuse to get new teeth and just wait inevitably until their death. If I get into Harvard, they will realize that they were a part of something great. They helped raise me (minimally) to get to the “best school” in the country. They will realize that they, too, are worth something. Even further, I think that they will want to raise a child and attempt to feel the opportunities of America through that child. My family suffers through a lot more, from alcoholic egotistical uncles to having absolutely not friends, but if you want to hear about that maybe we can talk later. I will, however, talk about myself in the next paragraph.

I also went through a pretty rough time as a kid. My dad left before I was born, and my mom worked 4 nights a week and slept until 6 PM every day. Through this time, I had to survive. I learned to cook for myself, check and sort all the mail, use the internet as a resource for my homework, set reasonable bedtimes, and more. I also had no friends, and in a way I was as secluded as my family. I began to help in the donut shop, my family and I knowing that I would inevitably work there as an adult. However, when was invited to the robotics program in 3rd grade, my perspective on the world shifted greatly. I would talk about that more, but here are the basics. It helped me realize that I could do more and that there were more opportunities in America, contrary to my family’s beliefs. Furthermore, I pioneered greatness. I went to other schools and preached on how robotics would help, and that it needed to be added to their school. From the first robotics team in my whole valley, I pioneered a program with more than 3000 kids in it. Due to high school, I am not as involved as I was before in it. However, I still volunteer with the program whenever I need to. This made me realize that my life is nothing if I don’t help others and make a change in the universe.

I am an insomniac. I lay awake for, on average, two hours every night just thinking about the world. I have realized that my life is worthless on the scale of the universe. I realized that if I don’t make a change, I am nothing. Although this has driven me to lose some emotion, I still can experience life and it’s ups and downs; I can still feel the human experience. I, then, vowed to do as much as I can to prosper mankind. I will cure Alzheimers. I will invent an alternative for suppressing Tourette’s disorder. I have so many plans for the future, but I feel as if Harvard is the place for this because 1) the amazing medical school and 2) ethical appeals (ethos) which will allow my work to be looked at as if I had immense authority, easing the process of patents and partnership. In short, I need to go to Harvard to change the world. I have already started a bit. I wanted to play boys volleyball but there were no opportunities in a 50 mile radius. I called up a local organization and begged them, and now I am captain of the first boy’s volleyball team in all of my region. That’s not it. Everyone does National Honor Society, and most people are the president. However, I couldn’t stand doing barely anything. I integrated a survey system to personalize volunteering efforts to make sure that participants actually enjoy it, and maybe continue volunteering with this program outside of National Honor Society. I added a participation based scholarship part to my Youth and Government program.

Now that you know why I need to go, here are my stats:

[]=what is most likely going to happen (not happened yet)
Demographic
Asian > Other Southeast Asian > Cambodia
Language
English
First Language, Speak, Read, Write, Spoken At Home
Spanish
Speak, Read, Write
Khmer
Speak, Spoken At Home
[Chinese]
[Speak - Self Taught]
Grades
Exact Class Ranking
[2/530]
Cumulative GPA
[5.0997 Weighted, 4.00 Unweighted]
Senior Year Course Load
AP English Literature
Full Year
AP Calculus BC
Full Year
AP Spanish
Full Year
AP Capstone Seminar
Full Year
AP Biology
Full Year
AP Government
Semester
AP Economics
Semester
Academic Achievements
[National AP Scholar]
[National Merit Scholarship Finalist]
[AP Capstone Diploma]

Standardized Testing
SAT
1970/2400 (600 CR, 690 Math, 680 Writing) - Sophomore (I know this is bad, but I am going to study a lot more and improve
[1550/1600 (750 CR/W, 800 Math) - Junior]
[1600/1600 (800 CR/W, 800 Math) - Senior]
ACT
[35/36 - Junior]
SAT II
[World History - 800/800]
[Spanish - 800/800]
AP Tests
[World History - 5]
[Calculus AB - 5]
[English Language - 5]
[Physics - 5]
[US History - 5]
[Capstone Seminar - 5]

Extracurricular Activities
[Athletics: Club Volleyball]
Position/Leadership: Founder/Leader of Volleyball Club
Description/Awards: Founded first Boy’s Volleyball Club in the Valley.
Participation Grade Levels: [10,11,12]
Timing of Participation: [All Year]
Hours (weeks/year): [5/52]
[Community Service: Volunteer]
Position/Leadership: [Volunteer at Eisenhower Medical Center]
Description/Awards: [?]
Participation Grade Levels: [9,10,11,12]
Timing of Participation: [During School Break]
Hours (weeks/year): [unsure]
Music: Instrumental
Position/Leadership: Piano Player
Description/Awards: Received $3000 scholarship to Idyllwild Arts Summer Program, [Played Piano for 9 years?]
Participation Grade Levels: 9,10,11,12
Timing of Participation: All Year
Hours (weeks/year): 7/52
Debate/Speech
Position/Leadership: Youth and Government [Chaplain g.11, President g.12]
Description/Awards: [Elected Commission Chair for California’s Youth and Government National Issues Committee program]
Participation Grade Levels: 9,10,11,12
Timing of Participation: During School Year
Hours (weeks/year): 2/20
Work (Paid)
Position/Leadership: Employee at Swiss Donuts
Description/Awards: [?]
Participation Grade Levels: 9,10,11,12
Timing of Participation: During School Break
Hours (weeks/year): 25/10
Community Service (Volunteer)
Position/Leadership: Youth Committee Member [Chair g.11,12]
Description/Awards: [?]
Participation Grade Levels:
Timing of Participation: During School Year
Hours (weeks/year): 2/12 [?]
Community Service (Volunteer)
Position/Leadership: National Honor Society Member [President g.11,12]
Description/Awards: [Volunteered x hours?]
Participation Grade Levels: 10,11,12
Timing of Participation: During School Year
Hours (weeks/year): [?]
Robotics
Position/Leadership: Aztec Botball Club Member [President g.10,11,12]
Description/Awards: [Recuperated after school cut club funding, done robotics for 9 years?] Highest Global Robotics Achievement Test Score g.9
Participation Grade Levels: 9,10,11,12
Timing of Participation: All Year
Hours (weeks/year): 4/20
[Academic]
Position/Leadership: Academic World Quest Member
Description/Awards: [?] Second Place (g.10) First Place [g.11,12]
Participation Grade Levels: 10,11,12
Timing of Participation: During School Year
Hours (weeks/year): 7/12
Community Service (Volunteer)
Position/Leadership: Camp Oakes Junior Counselor OR SMaRT Education Volunteer
Description/Awards: [?]
Participation Grade Levels: 9,10,11,12
Timing of Participation: [?]
Hours (weeks/year): [?]

What are my chances? Thank you everyone!

If your goal is to develop cures for diseases, then understand that a) this might not happen, even if you do everything right and b) you will have to go to graduate school, and where you go undergrad will not be that big of a deal.

Sorry to say, but Harvard really doesn’t care that your uncles don’t have teeth or that you feel like your life is worthless if you don’t achieve something. You focus so little on your acheivements and so much on your impediments; why is that?

Using Harvard as a scapegoat for all your familial issues and a way to make relatives proud of you is not the way to go. It does not measure your self-worth or your intellect. ~95% of Harvard applicants get rejected, and that number will almost certainly be higher by the time you apply. Instead of believing that Harvard is the end-all be-all, set some more realistic goals that your family will still be proud of. Teach them about some other great, but more reasonable, schools. Because the chances are that you’ll be rejected from Harvard-- almost everyone is, and most of the rejected are very qualified.

Hypotheticals won’t get you anywhere. You can say that you’ll get a higher SAT score, but if this is never quantified, it doesn’t mean anything. You say that you’ll be chair of this or member of that or have a certain grads/course load when you’re a senior, but these things can be outside of your control–don’t bank on them. You can say that you’ll cure Alzheimer’s, but what makes you think you’ll be the one? What do you think all the professionals out there are trying to do right now? And why do you think you could do it better? I’m not trying to put you down, but this is something you need to consider. Hard work will get you far, but working hard enough at disease cure won’t necessarily make a cure. Just look at all the jobs and dollars poured into cancer research.

Your ECs seem a little all over the place. You’re trying to do everything and do well at each thing, which is unfesable, especially considering that you already seem stressed. You should pick a few things you love and really excel at them. Otherwise, you look like you’re just trying to create what you think Harvard wants to look at.

At such a young age, college is far away. Focus on having friends, doing extracurriculars you like, and not limiting yourself to one occupation before you even turn 18. You’re putting too much weight into Harvard-- it is not the only path for the greater career goals you have laid out. And who knows? By the time applications roll around for you, maybe you won’t even want to be a neuroscientist anymore. Again, don’t limit yourself so soon!

  1. You don’t have to carry the entire weight of Pol Pot’s genocide on your shoulders

  2. You don’t have to carry the weight of your entire extended family’s honor on you shoulders

  3. There’s NO ENTITLEMENT to go to Harvard as reparations for your parents’ suffering

  4. If your parents, similar to other immigrant parents or parents of 1st gen college students, are not familiar with the names of many American colleges, then it would behoove you to share with them what you learn as you learn it

  5. You are setting yourself up for a pattern of hurt if you pin all your life’s happiness on acquiring a certain dream school, a certain dream mate, a certain dream job, a certain brand of shoes. There is NO SILVER BULLET to achieve fulfillment and happiness.

  6. You are overestimating your parents’ expectations of you. They will be proud of you if go to any good college, ESPECIALLY with a scholarship

  7. If your ambition is to go to med school, then any reasonable undergraduate college will do. The prerequisite for med school is high GPA and high MCAT scores. You also can explain this to your parents.

I see a career in journalism or creative writing in your future.

1 in 20 get into Harvard.

Be memorable.

Follow your passion.

Enjoy high school.

“I realized that I need to go to Harvard” I stopped reading after this sentence. If you think you can somehow realistically weave your way into the 5% admit rate you’re already speeding towards disaster and disappointment. I highly encourage you to read this: http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvard-university/1420290-chance-threads-please-read-before-posting-one.html

^ I also stopped reading after that point. What a setup for disaster.

Yeah. Thank you for the reality check. I went through a phase last night and believed that going to Harvard would solve all my problems. Now I know it won’t. It is still a goal of mine though; @stressinsteph the EC’s I do I love though, and I feel a passion for all of them. I read that I need a “spike” for some admissions. I did robotics for 10 years, 6 years of FLL, 2 years of Google Lunar X-Prize, and 4 years of Botball. I did a research presentation about team management last year to ~300 people. I love robotics, but there’s not really any more programs to do in my area and if I wanted to start one, I would have to raise $15000. What should I do?

And how do I get a post deleted? I realized I posted way too personal stuff. I already reported the post but I’m not sure if there is another way.

Thank you everyone!

Honestly, I would continue to get good grades, study hard to improve your standardized test scores, read widely for pleasure, and pursue ECs that you genuinely enjoy.

GPA, test scores, essays, recommendations, and ECs, roughly in that order are the heart of your application. Harvard is not going to expect that a first generation college applicant who comes from a poor immigrant family is going to have 15K lying around to found a robotics club. Also, there are many, many summer enrichment programs for underrepresented groups that have financial need. Try to apply to some of those in areas that meet your interests.

Keep Harvard as a goal, by all means, but keep your expectations reasonable. If you continue to do well academically, I’m sure that you will gain admission to many worthy colleges and universities and might obtain scholarships as well.

One thing to consider is doing a community service EC that might model for your family what you hope for them. Maybe volunteer with the international rescue committee to help new refugees integrate. Or work with a doctor who helps addicts or a group that empowers immigrant women.

The benefit of this is even if you don’t get into Harvard you will have started to address the issues that made Harbard appear like a magical solution.

Best wishes to you.

I’m sorry you and your family have had such a hard time.

But you need to give some serious consideration to the idea of “needs vs wants.”

You WANT to go to Harvard. So do thousands of other smart, driven kids with stories to tell.

No one kid has anywhere near decent odds of getting into Harvard or any of the other Ivy League schools. That’s the reality. It’s like buying a Powerball ticket-- as much as you really really want to win, the reality is that the odds are stacked heavily against your ticket being the winning one.

http://www.roxandroll.com/2014/11/parents-let-harvard-go.html

Your resume looks like a student with 1,000 interests and with no focus in life. No ivy league college likes a well rounded student.

That is actually not true – but they do want real depth in at least a couple of areas.

“I need to go to this school.”

All you need is the air that you breathe.

Actually, I think the hardship you went through in life so far will help you get into Harvard. Yes, you have very good chance.