<p>One of my good friends scored a 790 on the SATS (altogether) and a 18 on the ACTS. :/ She doesn't want to go to community college, she wants the "real college experience." The only school I found that would accept that low of scores is an all black school in Texas that she is not interested in. I told her to really considerate it...they might even give her a scholarship, ha. </p>
<p>Anyway, I'm helping her with her essay (proofreading, revising, NOT writing it) and just trying to get her through this college process but I know of no schools that could look past that low of a score.</p>
<p>if she actually cares about getting a good education,I would suggest her starting off with a community college, and transfer to a better school. If she just want to go school, get drunk, get laid, then I dunno if she gets the definition of "college". Anyway, she could try some state schools, for example, our state school accept students who are the top 25% of their class. It will be hard to find a school. Try the Princeton Review college matcher. Or, if she has great ECs and great essay, she might find some schools that do not require test scores. I'll list some after you tell me if she is a good student or not.</p>
<p>she needs to go to a community college. if she's serious about her future, and not getting the "real college expierence" (which I personally assume is parties, drinking, and goofing off) then she will be ok going 2 years in a CC and getting the gen reqs out of the way.</p>
<p>did she get at least a 2.0 in school? have her re-take the SAT or ACT and this time study for them. Many schools can take applications up until August...so she has plenty of time, just no scholarships which really doesn't matter with those scores.</p>
<p>question- what is her gpa, and are these scores reflective of her "aptitudes" ie is she a good student who tests badly, is she working hard but struggling, or is she lazy and unfocused...as a friend, think about that...it is what the schools she might apply to will be wondering</p>
<p>has she ever been tested for a learning disabilty- my Ds friend wasn't diagnosed until she was a jr in hs with a math ld, so one never knows</p>
<p>is she a first generation American or Immigrant? Is English her first language?</p>
<p>did she do any prep at all for the test...is she serious or casual about school, homework, ecs, does she work...</p>
<p>all these can determine what is the best course college wise for your friend</p>
<p>there are schools that don't need test scores, BUT the other aspects, gpa, course, ecs, recommendations, etc are uber important</p>
<p>But, she has two basic choices (you can slice/dice it however you like):
1. She can enjoy two years of "real college experience" after attending CC, and more likely at a school that will also allow her to find a respectable job afterwards (a good name school).</p>
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<li>She can stubbornly force the "real college experience" from the get-go and regret it for the rest of her life when she realizes that the college isn't opening as many doors as she needs to have a fulfilling career.<br></li>
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<p>or 3. She can luck out and find a good situation that she decides is best for herself and also leaves no regrets. The problem is sometimes taking the "wise" route is not always what people want (especially if they are unaware that their choice is being based on limited information, or worse, emotions), but it is the better way when all the pieces of the puzzle are re-connected.</p>
<p>-She's caucasian.
-Does NOT have any learning disabilities
-Born and bred in the U.S.A. (English first language)
-Messed around in school and, although it hurts me to say, I don't think she's naturally smart, so I don't want her to go to college and not be able to handle the workload and the material.
-Her grades throughout high school were B-'s, C's, D's and two F's (she had to take the courses over)
-Does not have much going for her; no extracurriculars until this year, can only get one recommendation from a teacher she's befriended, she does have a job though
-She's an okay writer</p>
<p><em>sigh</em> This isn't looking too good. I mentioned Temple or West Chester or Delaware Country Community College, but from reason she wants to go to Arizona State. I think this may be a stretch...what do you think?</p>
<p>well looks like her GPA is done, it'll be hard to increase. Have her take the ACT or SAT at least 3 times before deadline. I assume most state universities have late deadlines (OU, June).</p>
<p>Sounds like an unmotivated kid who wants to go to ASU for the "real college experience." My guess is she is looking for a party lifestyle. I would bet she will find that lifestyle, but not at college.</p>
<p>She needs to live this one through as a life lesson... you can't screw around in high school and then expect to get the rewards of a good school right away.</p>
<p>As I said before... if she's serious about an education, she can earn her way in via community college for two years.</p>
<p>Considering she's being picky even with such a horrible list of grades/scores/ECs she seems very immature and really not ready for what college really is. </p>
<p>I graduated HS with a 1.8 GPA, no ECs, no recs, and no ACT/SAT. I went to Community College and a college credit Votec. I earned a 3.57 GPA, part of PTK, did some tutoring, and will have an AA at the end of spring 2007. I have my choice of many schools, which is much better than beforehand when I had almost none.</p>
<p>EESH! those grades r what i would have gotten if i stayed at my old top public school! theres a reason y i left...but i had adhd...i did badbadbad freshman yr...it sucked...i have adhd tho i decided im not going to cc..im going to landmark unlike most people i know my parents can pay full freight 4 that school</p>
<p>The crucial question, as others have said, is why she want to go to college in the first place. Does she want to go to get an education and improve her prospects for the future, or does she want to party all the time. If she's serious about her education, she might be able to get into some sort of in-state public or community college and do what JCampbell has done. If she just wants to party, it might be best if she didn't go to college right away, since there is, sadly, a good chance she will flunk out. It might be best for her to enter the workforce for a while.</p>
<p>There are some state schools which are similar to community college in that they have 2 year (but also 4 year) programs, accept just about anyone, set you up to transfer, but also have dorms and are probably more similar to "real college experience" than CC. And they're usually pretty cheap. Maybe look into that.</p>
<p>She could look into some of the colleges in West Virginia. I don't know if there are any that would fit the bill, but lots of kids here in Maryland who need a less selective college look there.</p>
<p>I agree with RaboKarabekian. You can go to these schools and still stay in dorms, there's parties, sports teams, etc. Take Penn State. Plenty of people from my school who would like to eventually go there go to one of their smaller campuses which are a lot easier to get into (Erie, Berks, Altoona Campuses etc.) Depending on your state and her school intest, maybe your friend can find something along those lines. I do worry that going to college for the wrongs reasons can quickly lead to failing out.</p>
<p>Go to collegeboard.com and do a college matchmaker search. As criteria for a school, put in 4 year and whatever else you want and when you go to results sort by "sat [either]" ascending. You'll find a lot some with open admissions, some that don't report sat scores, and eventually you will break into the schools whose average sats are around 210 on either part.</p>
<p>Edit: it starts at the schools that report sats that way (with many that she could get into). For the ones with open admissions you'll have to go to the last page.</p>
<p>Hmm. There are some state schools that will accept students regardless of their SAT/ACT scores, as long as they have a 3.0 GPA.</p>
<p>If your friend doesn't have a GPA, then I would really suggest going to a community college. She might not want to go there, but she should work really hard while in a CC, then transfer to somewhere she would like to go, much more than she would than just settling for whatever college she can get in to.</p>
<p>your friend needs to look into your local state University syste,. At some state U's there are community colleges where students will have the opportunity to live in the dorms and "experience college life". In addition at most community colleges there are articulation agreements in place that when they graduate there is a seat for them in the 4 year state u system.</p>
<p>Your friend can also look at 4 year schools that have associate degree programs and apply directly to the associate degree program (you made a agood suggestion with a school like delaware valley).</p>
<p>what your friend is going to have to do is put some distance between her and her high school life. The good thing is that once she begins college she will start with a clean slate. Since she has already learned the hard way what is not working, hopefully this time around she will do things differently.</p>
<p>good luck to her and to you fro being such a good friend to her.</p>