<p>cornell owns engineering, obviously cornell…and nj azn premed, as insecure as you may be about going for Penn ED and being locked in to attend, Penn doesn’t have a better name than Cornell, especially in engineering. But…whatever makes you feel better about your decision…</p>
<p>how about you quit your noncontributive ■■■■■■■■, thanks.</p>
<p>I chose Cornell over UPenn. Both schools are good.</p>
<p>Fudgemaster chose for engineering.</p>
<p>lopo - admit rate is only half the story. Columbia’s admit rate is essentially equal to Princeton’s - but obviously Princeton gets the lion’s share of the cross-admits, by a large margin. Even Brown beats out Columbia for cross-admits, although it traditionally accepts over 2% more students. So obviously, the quality of the student body is independent of the admit rate.</p>
<p>For a more trenchant example: Swarthmore/Amherst/Williams accepted around 19%, but they’re certainly more selective than Cornell, and more on the level of schools like Penn, Columbia, et al. A lot of kids even turn down HYP to go to those schools.</p>
<p>So, sorry: student quality is not completely correlated with acceptance rate. Caltech is yet another example. Just because Cornell broke into the teens, doesn’t mean it’s going to only start attracting star students.</p>
<p>To really point out how silly your argument is: If Penn got as many applicants as Cornell did (33,000), we would have around the same acceptance rate as Princeton. Does that mean we’re as selective, and it’s “not fair”? No.</p>
<p>For engineering, I would say Cornell. Cornell is definitely more respected in science and enginnering, particularly in engineering.</p>
<p>Jocer: I would have had a (much) easier time getting into Cornell ED. The quality of Cornell applicants pales by comparison to those applying to Penn. This year, my school got 9 kids early and a bunch more regular into Cornell. Only 3 into Penn ED (one Wharton, two SEAS) and another 3 regular (only one of whom will attend…the other two are going to Princeton and Harvard).</p>
<p>“The quality of Cornell applicants pales by comparison to those applying to Penn.”</p>
<p>That is incorrect. The quality of students that attend Cornell are maybe statistically insignificantly lower than Penn. The quality of students that apply to Penn are of the same. It sounds like you’re just frantically defending your decision to apply ED to Penn.</p>
<p>For the OP’s sake, I hope Cornell Engineering is better than Penn. One of my majors here is Systems Engineering and after taking these courses and having the teachers I’ve had, I really do hope there are better engineering schools.</p>
<p>As for why Penn admits less from each high school: Penn desires diversity. They will NOT accept too many students from each school, with the exception of two Philadelphia schools. The fact that Penn accepted six from your school, nj<em>azn</em>premed, is rather startling. It shows Penn’s desperation. Cornell, on the other hand, likes East-Coast students more than the rest. So you’ll find significantly more students getting in on the East Coast, where you’re from, than from California.</p>
<p>Bottom line about engineering: Penngineering is okay, but far, far from the best. If your major is Engineering, go to Cornell. Penngineers get paid higher than any other Penn student, but that pay doesn’t improve over time like Wharton kids’ pay does. Look at the 5 year and 10 year surveys of engineers from Penn in business jobs, and Wharton kids in related business jobs. The reason for this is engineers at Penn are recruited for finance and stay there. Wharton kids are recruited for entry-level finance but are usually promoted to management very quickly. </p>
<p>Source? Penn’s Career Services, where I had my resume submitted for summer internships. I suggest people go there before making rash comments. They’re very frank, and they have all sorts of other college employment data, including Cornell’s data that’s not published online.</p>
<p>I was a bio major at Cornell, not engineering.</p>
<p>^^lauke…I was just trying to irritate some ■■■■■■ with that statement; not that I really believe it to be (completely) true…Although, I don’t know how “statistically insignificant” the difference between Penn and Cornell is. But there are few ways the student bodies themselves can be compared, so we’ll probably never know. And, I don’t have any regrets about applying ED, especially after I saw the massacre that happened with some of our top kids in the RD round. Besides, before I fell in love with Penn, I thought for the longest time that I would go premed (hence the username) and apply ED to JHU. Could I have done better than Penn? Maybe. Does it really matter in the long run? In my opinion, absolutely not…</p>
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<p>I really agree. When there’s grad school and so many other factors, where you go for undergrad really doesn’t matter, so long as you like it and do well there.</p>
<p>there’s REALLY 6 pages (and growing) on this!!!</p>
<p>i’d choose cornell for the prestige</p>