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From the article, the exact same argument can be made for height. Short people are on unequal ground so let's include AA for them too.
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<p>As a dark-skinned, 5'2" Asian-American, I am pro-skin-tone-and/or-height Affirmative Action. Can we throw in something about, I don't know, black hair? Short eyelashes? Small bra size?</p>
<p>Hey, everything's a disadvantage. Don't just look at me and say, "She's Asian, she'll be successful." I mean, look at these nailbeds. Just look at them. They make a horrible impression every time I shake someone's hand, but what can I do about them? Nothing. Nothing. It's so unfair.</p>
<p>Actually, if you're below a certain height, schools need to make accomidations, as they do for other 'conditions'. Other conditions include (but are not limited to) need for financial aid, wheel chair ramps, ASL interpreters, untimed tests, note takers, counseling services, recreation center facilities, basketball courts, clubs, school funded non-alchoholic events, safe spaces, blue security lights, wireless internet connections, etc... </p>
<p>There is an arbitrary cut-off depending on who is speaking. Ultruistic behavior by Asians or any other group is unusual. You're disagree with Adam Smith in the normative (i.e. On Moral Sentiment, 1759), while trying to change the positive (what is) given a particular view or normative belief. You could argue that his second work the Wealth of Nations, 1776, aligns more closely to a positive view, since it concentrates on freedom in the market.</p>
<p>IsleBoy seems to be saying that the current AA policy is unfair, because it treats all URM the same regardless of skin tone. So maybe from now on all applicants have to submit a photo taken under very strict lighting condidition, so that adcoms can judge their skin tone and adjust for the inequalities. South Asian Indians, who tends to have dark skin, they would be benefited too.</p>
<p>I just found this discussion and find it quite interesting. For those of you willing to explore your own possible hidden biases you may want to check out this website. If you do one of the self assessments you contribute to research as well as learn something interesting about yourself. </p>
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I just found this discussion and find it quite interesting. For those of you willing to explore your own possible hidden biases you may want to check out this website. If you do one of the self assessments you contribute to research as well as learn something interesting about yourself.</p>
"Do some Asians, who do not support AA, have victim mindsets when it comes to their candidacy to private colleges that use a holistic process when choosing who to accept, deny, or waitlist?"</p>
<p>"Do some Asians benefit from being light skinned compared to other minority groups (making them profit from the color of their skin)?"
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<li><p>Quite possible. This victimhood, however, results not from trumpeting historical grievances, but rather from the view that one was rejected due to one's race.</p></li>
<li><p>Quite possible, also. This question doesn't relate to my original question, which you read but did not answer.</p></li>
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<p>So, I'll restate it, as follows: Do some supporters of affirmative action, particularly Black supporters, have "victim" mindsets?</p>
<p>Ahhh!!! Raising the dead is unnatural and wrong!</p>
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<p>But anyway, I don't know how much I agree with your second argument. For one, Americans don't demonstrate the kind of antipathy toward Asians that they demonstrate toward Mexicans (and Latinos in general.)</p>
<p>I'm Asian and that sterotype is somewhat true. Sterotypes all have a basis in truth, you cannot deny it. However I feel as if im the exception. Go me.</p>
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But anyway, I don't know how much I agree with your second argument. For one, Americans don't demonstrate the kind of antipathy toward Asians that they demonstrate toward Mexicans (and Latinos in general.)
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<p>Actually, Latinos have gotten a better shake in Hollywood and Madison Avenue than Asian-Americans (and in particular Asian males).</p>
<p>Plus, comedy and radio shows are filled w/ stereotypical depictions/mocking of Asians (and w/ regard to the latter - radio jocks don't get fired; usually get lame "sorry if anyone got offended").</p>
<p>Yes, that is true. Unfortunately, however, it seems that the distinction is only rarely made in the US. Mexican is Mexican is Mexican as far as many seem to be concerned.</p>
<p>Ok I'm not going to read through 38 pages but I have something to say.</p>
<p>If Harvard (or any other college for that matter) says (all) Asians are shy and are placed below Whites for Personal Qualities, is it really the right fit for you?</p>
<p>Only read til page 6, because I was pretty disgusted by then and didn't think I could stomach any more of it.</p>
<p>You all need to lose your sense of entitlement. It boils down to this: Colleges need diversity. Yes, ETHNIC diversity. They need whites, blacks, hispanics and every other ethnic group in the U.S., and if it makes it harder for Asians to get into Princeton, then so be it. If you have a 4.0 and a 2400 on your SAT, you will get into a good school that will prepare you for life and success. It might not be Harvard or Yale. No one is entitled to an education at Harvard or Yale.</p>
<p>Life isn't fair? Tell that to the inner-city kid who barely has enough to eat for breakfast before taking the SAT. Tell that to the kid who can't afford to waste any time on extracurriculars because they have to work 2 jobs to help out their family. </p>
<p>Grow up. Be grateful that you are smart and healthy and get to go to college. Just because you worked hard in high school doesn't mean you get to go to an ivy league school. Such is the nature of life.</p>