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<p>There’s always the UCs.</p>
<p>Though you have to wonder if most* of people would like to be in that environment. </p>
<p>Gotta say though, nonstereotypical grade.</p>
<p>I don’t know.
I would much rather have myself held at an ‘Asian’ standard than a ‘black’ one.
It makes a big difference. Race plays a part in the way you are taught, the way society treats you. I would much rather have people assume I was ‘smart, math/science nerd, quiet’ then ‘loud, watermelon/chicken-eating, poor, ebonic-speaking, plays basketball, slacker,’. Even if this means there would be more competition in admissions.
A good stereotype is better than a horrible one.
Just food for thought.</p>
<p>i can’t take this anymore.
why do people automatically label simple, logical trends as racism?
it really ****es me off.</p>
<p>im asian and i suck at math.
this post was annoying.</p>
<p>When I got into Harvard, the other parents were like, How the f— did she get in?
that quote made me laugh. 
you go peipei!</p>
<p>Hi,
I’m not sure I understand the concern about descrimination. Asian population at Berkeley is something like 40% which is 10 times the US Asian population. So it appears that Asians are chosen at 10 x the rate as other races. How is that descrimination? Am I missing something? Can someone explain what they mean here and what they think would end the descrimination? I agree that comments like the Ad Coms made sound racist and generic but even Harvard has 19% Asian students. That’s still 5 times the population. Just trying to understand how that is descrimination? THANKS for clarification.</p>
<p>There is an interesting section on this topic in Gladwell’s recent book “Outliers”. Good read!</p>
<p>[‘Outliers</a>’ Puts Self-Made Success To The Test : NPR](<a href=“http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97117414]'Outliers”>'Outliers' Puts Self-Made Success To The Test : NPR)</p>
<p>UC schools do not have AA, which is why they are 40-50% in Asian…</p>
<p>*** so are many of the community colleges in california as well though. International Asian students overwhelmingly attend California Community Colleges and transfer to UC’s relative to other states.</p>
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<p>if you consider that post “food for thought” then i consider it poison. no stereotype can be “good” because it detracts from the character of the individual by a definition created by someone else. i also like how you bring to light negative black stereotypes to relatively “positive” Asian stereotypes. if anything, it speaks more about your mode of thinking than that of society. idiot.</p>
<p>We asians don’t age. We level up. Or, as my grandparents say, “Rever up.” 
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<p>It’s possible that the percentages could be higher absent negative action.</p>
<p>Today, few deny that decades ago, Jewish students were discriminated against in higher education. They were certainly “over-represented,” but they could have been even more “over-represented” had admissions officers at the time not been so anti-Semitic. Thus, that they were “over-represented” did not disprove discrimination.</p>
<p>Rosieoney, firstly understand that Berkeley doesn’t factor in race in admissions–probably why it’s number of Asian-Americans is pretty high. Harvard, however, does–and while you are right in saying it’s Asian-American proportion of the class is high, what you don’t see is the percentage of Asian-American applicants that make it in, versus African-American or Latino-American. It’s probably lower, meaning it’s harder for them. The reason why it’s still so high is because so many Asian-Americans apply in the first place, accepting a low percentage of them still equates to a lotta Asian-Americans.</p>
<p>It’s not that colleges dislike Asian-Americans or anything, it’s just that they put their applications to a stricter test.</p>
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<p>While this is true, I feel that it should be mentioned that in many cases Asians are not a minority in the top 10% (1, 5, 10%, pending on how large the school) of the school. Though I’m not going to disagree and say that the # of Asian American applicants is not high, I just feel your post gives a slightly skewed view.</p>
<p>@x90:
Are you African American?</p>
<p>x90: Not that stereotypes themselves are good at all. but they do exist and are acted upon. I think it needs to be put in perspective. That’s all I’m saying. No need for name calling.</p>
<p>And those ARE general stereotypes that people have about black people and asians. Yea, really. It’s not just me making stuff up, that’s real life, that’s the minority experience. I don’t know where you are from where everyone is treated equally and no one harbors stereotypes about anyone else.</p>
<p>…I know Peipei. </p>
<p>This was really funny to come across, because I was just clicking on this randomly and boom, that name pops up.</p>
<p>Yea, that was basically the reaction of all the parents in the “group”, though I don’t really remember it too well, because I was like 9 at the time. All the other kids that were applying the same year got rejected from Harvard, (I think a few made MIT), 1 to Stanford and none into Princeton/Yale, and were all stereotypical asians.</p>
<p>You can only be limited by a stereotype if you aren’t an individual. </p>
<p>That means, if you don’t love who you are, and have a clear picture of your unique traits and strengths, that you will inevitable fall into some sort of stereotype and by seen by college admissions officers as this amorphous blob that vaguely resembles every other amorphous blob. </p>
<p>The fact that it is harder for Asians to get into HPYS etc only makes it harder for you if your identity is defined by societal labels like Asian</p>
<p>I am from China,and I am always be proud of myself being a Chinese wherever I go.</p>
<p>im not asian</p>