<p>Crazy Asians!!! Twix ah foo kids!!! What’s up with them and their bubble tea? It’s like Africans and their chicken mcnuggets. Humans really are reducible to basic mechanical parts.</p>
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<p>Your little worlds aren’t indicative of actuality.</p>
<p>Studies show that the ECs of Asian American students is pretty much the same as the general student body, as well as the areas of study/major at college (i.e. - business being the most popular major for both AAs and the general student body).</p>
<p>As for “differentiation” - why do so many Jews end up in finance, medicine, law and Hollywood?</p>
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<p>Actually, aside from foreign Asian students (or those who grew up in ethnic enclaves in the US), the most self-segregating students would be black students (one could also argue whites since it’s usually the minority students who have to “make the move”).</p>
<p>There’s a reason why terms like “twinkie”, “banana”, “whitewashed”, etc. are used to describe a large chunk of the AA pop.</p>
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<p>rosieoney - First off, UCB is a state school and thus, has a preference for in-state students.</p>
<p>2nd, Asian-Americans make up nearly 13% of the pop. of CA - so that would be slightly more than 3x their pop. representation (and not 10x) in the state.</p>
<p>3rd, UCB and Stanford have admitted to and apologized for past admissions policies which artificially capped the no. of AA students.</p>
<p>As for Harvard, since AA makes up 5% of the US pop. - that would be almost 4x the AA pop., not 5x.</p>
<p>Otoh, Jews make up 25% or so of the Harvard student body and yet only make up less than 2% of the college age pop. in the US - so in this case the overrepresentation is by a factor of 13x or so.</p>
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<p>And that type of stereotype is the reason why poor Asians (for instance, Asians, not blacks, have the highest poverty rate in NYC) don’t get the assistance they need from govt. programs; why Asians (particularly Asian males) make less than their white counterparts and face a “bamboo ceiling”; why there are programs to help blacks/hispanics to advance into management positions, but not Asians; etc.</p>
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<p>That’s largely limited to the Chinese w/ Mandarin, Catonese, etc.</p>
<p>Asian countries like Korea, Japan, etc. have alphabets.</p>
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<p>khaki - the areas of study picked by AA students isn’t that different from that of the general student pop.</p>
<p>As for the whole math thing - many AA students don’t like math (for instance, universities in Korea and Japan are cutting their depts. in math and the sciences due to the lack of student interest), but for AA students who are recent immigrants, math is the one area of study which is easier for them to excel at since English fluency isn’t necessary.</p>
<p>People who talk about how AA students are all (or mostly) this or that really don’t have an idea of how much diversity there is in the AA community (aside from all the cultural/ethnic, religious diversity).</p>
<p>Plenty of AAs in design for fashion - such as Anna Sui, Vera Wang, David Chu (who started Nautica), Derek Lam, Alexander Wang, Peter Som, Vivienne Tam, Sunhee Moon, etc. </p>
<p>Also many AAs in design ranging from interior home design to automobile design (for instance, both the Camaro and Mustang were designed by Asian-Americans, as well as the Chevy Volt).</p>
<p>Not to mention all the Asian-American architects and ones who started new art styles (such as Nam June Paik who started the video art movement and George Nakashima, architect and furniture maker who is known as one of the fathers of, of all things, the American craft movement).</p>
<p>Plus, all the AAs news anchors/reporters (note that almost all of the AA news anchors are female), not to mention all the AA journalists for all the major US papers as well as sports oriented publications (such as CNNSI) or gossip rags (US Weekly Editor In Chief - Janice Min).</p>
<p>Here are some notable AAs who passed away recently.</p>
<p>UCB professor emeritus, Ronald Takaki, who taught the first black history course at UCLA.</p>
<p>Professor Him Mark Lai who was one of the pioneers of ethnic studies</p>
<p>Richard Aoki - civil rights activist and former member of the Black Panthers.</p>
<p>Al Robles - community activist and poet</p>
<p>The nectarine (or fuzzless peach) was developed by two Korean-Am farmers (btw, the Bing cherry was named after the Chinese agricultural foreman, Ah Bing).</p>
<p>Also, 15.5% of the SF Fire Dept. is made of AA firefighters and 5% of the NYPD is made up of AA police officers (I would wager that there are more AA members of the NYPD than Jewish members relative to their pop. base).</p>
<p>@ K&S: <<and that=“” type=“” of=“” stereotype=“” is=“” the=“” reason=“” why=“” poor=“” asians=“” (for=“” instance,=“” asians,=“” not=“” blacks,=“” have=“” highest=“” poverty=“” rate=“” in=“” nyc)=“” don’t=“” get=“” assistance=“” they=“” need=“” from=“” govt.=“” programs;=“” (particularly=“” asian=“” males)=“” make=“” less=“” than=“” their=“” white=“” counterparts=“” and=“” face=“” a=“” “bamboo=”" ceiling";=“” there=“” are=“” programs=“” to=“” help=“” blacks=“” hispanics=“” advance=“” into=“” management=“” positions,=“” but=“” asians;=“” etc.=“”>>
^ Where are you getting that statistic about NYC? Definitely inaccurate.
Check this: <a href=“http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/36/3651000.html[/url]”>http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/36/3651000.html</a>
26.6% of blacks in 2000 compared to 9.8% of Asians…
Moving on from that…
But overall, Asians are much better off than most or all other minorities. Black males make less than both their asian and white counterparts. Asians are not at as much of a disadvantage than other minorities on average. There are programs from blacks and hispanics because they are the ones 90% of the time that need help. </and></p>
<p>Asians probably have the best luck out there for any minority as far as economic status, education, and general respect. It’s sad that people feel sorry for themselves when they have little reason to.</p>
<p>from my personal observation, it seems that Asian males (and most minority males for that matter) are the ones who like to stick to their roots, whereas a higher proportion of Asian females pride themselves for being “whitewashed”</p>
<h2>it may be different in your area tough </h2>
<p>Why can’'t you stick to your roots ? You make it sound as if having “success/happiness/etc” means leaving behind your past. Why do you have to assimilate? Also, this reminded me of how Asian girls can date white guys but the opposite is not true…</p>
<h2>Asians probably have the best luck out there for any minority as far as economic status, education, and general respect. It’s sad that people feel sorry for themselves when they have little reason to.</h2>
<p>Meh…I will agree with you to a certain extent, but I don’t know if I can fully agree with everything you said here.</p>
<p>Brando, you don’t have to fully agree. The facts speak for themselves. By any statistical analysis Asians are way better off than other ethnic minorities. I’m not speculating here, it’s what the facts show.</p>
<p>I’m not ‘Asian’, however the qualities being looked down upon here seem to be those craved at top British institutions (LSE and Cambridge more so); they’d much rather a ‘textureless math grind’ than someone with more character, any day.</p>
<p>You neglect to consider that these “textureless math grinds” would likely bomb Oxford’s rigorous interviews.</p>
<p>Being an outstanding student and being an outstanding human being are crucial to admission to all top universities.</p>
<p>Hahaha what are they gonna say, “you’re not special, you’re just an Asian”? </p>
<p>I guess so.</p>
<p>guys/girls-
Honestly what do you expect? your dealing with “schools” better known as corporate companies who are subsidized by the government and private donors. People are going to face this kind of racial profiling for their whole lives and you think it’ll ever stop at some point or another? Truth is racism is alive and well in America. Whether in the classrooms, admissions…pretty much anywhere and everywhere you look. Going to Cal opened up my mind and let me perceive things on a greater level. Yes, there are tons of asians at this school because they are hard workers and math/science orientated, but as is everyone else who got into this school. I love this school for what it is and what it has to offer because it has introduced me to a wide variety of people and you have to accept them for who they are and visa versa.<br>
Life isnt always gonna be fair, but that for dam sure does not give you the right to say “i hate being asian”…suck it up and keep moving on your way towards success and liberation of these admission stereotypes. You got a hand that was dealt to you, so play it well or just leave the table. The choice is yours…</p>
<p>Post #33, I love how you say “Mexican” and not “Hispanic”. Now who’s stereotyping?</p>
<p>Seeing how post #33 posted back in 2006, I wouldn’t hold my breath for a reply.</p>
<p>Wow! This is an old thread then.</p>
<h1>868: Their Maths interview actually is just about…Maths. They make you solve math problems on a piece of paper in front of them and ask you to explain your thought process to see how you’d approach a new problem set; it’s not about getting the right answer, more to do with the way you’d try to solve it in order to try and ascertain your suitability for their course and your mathematical intellect. They quite literally couldn’t give a **** about anything else. A Chinese Math Whiz and the like would and quite regularly do ace those interviews.</h1>
<p>I love how many people stereotype asians as people who have no lives, and study because their parents force them to. I laugh at this. Sure there are those who do. And there are others who don’t. My dad never told me to do SATs nor did my mom. I did it all on my own. They didn’t even know what the SATs were. They told me that they’re not gonna force me to do something. They told me it’s about personal motivation and that’s where I stand. ****es me off to no end when people say “Asians are only smart because their parents beat them when they’re not doing anything else” or something along the lines of that.</p>
<p>well, most are. My parent’s don’t give a damn about me either, but most people I know do.</p>
<p>yeah i mean there are words like “asian failure” and people tend to think ALL asians with glasses are geniuses and good at math/science
although I am one of the “typical” asians who wear glasses, quiet/shy, and a hard worker
I’m actually not that good at math and science
i feel kinda bad when all other people and even my parents expect me to do so well on math/science even though I’m actually not good at those subjects
in fact, i’m more interested in languages and social sciences
it’s really sad how asians are treated in an unfair way they’re hard workers they’re quiet/shy, what makes these qualities seem so bad?
i’m actually proud to be an asian :)</p>
<p>People stereotype races!? WT-F!? </p>
<p>I don’t believe it.</p>
<p>kipling123, it is not that they’re quiet/shy… the appropriate term would be self-control</p>
<p>What on earth?
I identify myself as Asian, and I am not some “textureless math grind.”
I am an English major, interested in going into public relations, and have quite a personality. Some find that my personality is too strong for them.
I am disgusted by that article.</p>