<p>debrockman, I understand what you are saying. What I think you are saying is that you are stuck in that incredibly frustrating space where the government won’t do a darn thing for you and you can’t afford to do everything the government is asking of you, and take care of your kids the way you wish you could. I’m sorry about that.</p>
<p>I do realize there is a segment of the population which is stuck in this position and it isn’t a fun place to be. I’m sure, however, that your son will rise to the occaison and do well. Don’t be fooled by the hype. A school like ND is a great ticket in many, many places in Chicago, which has a lot more of the hedge funds and still functioning trading houses than you might think.</p>
I think Nobody is a bit harsh. A kid coming from a family with food stamps doesn’t have money for FOOD, let alone college…how much do your propose they pay?</p>
<p>I know you didn’t ask me this but I will answer anyway :)</p>
<p>private colleges should indeed be able to choose their own admission standards and financial aid policies. That doesn’t mean some of us can’t think they are wrong and unfair - and that making a subset of the population overpay to subsidize others is just plain wrong</p>
<p>There is little reason for a very intelligent, capable person to want to become a teacher.</p>
<p>I suppose that would be true if this " intelligent capable person" did not have the experience of the influence a good or even great teacher can have.</p>
<p>My daughter who attended excellent private schools through college graduation ( one of those expensive LACs doncha know ), is applying to schools of education after three years in the post college work force.
She is both capable and intelligent if I do say so myself.
:)</p>
<p>Yes. I think they should be able to choose their own admissions policies and then make them very transparent so that we can all see the statistics of the class…which they do not.</p>
<p>Well, Rocket, I think that some adults get upset becaue they are just in this situation where they are stuck in the middle and misguidedly believe that it is ‘need based aid’ which is interfering with the COA for thier own kids. It’s a frustrating position to be in, but it’s a misguided position to take, imho, because if it was ONLY based on merit aid? Then, that wouldn’t work out either.</p>
<p>There really is a segment of the middle class who are getting it both ways right now and can’t catch a break. On the bright side, nobody is actually going to eliminate need based aid, and it sounds to me as if you are going to do quite well.</p>
<p>berry berry…ditto. That’s the rub. The price should be the REAL price for everyone. As it stands, some kids are expected to overpay so that others can get for less or nothing. Not to mention, the higher income parents don’t get a tax deduction for college expenses like lower income parents do.</p>
<p>“and then make them very transparent so that we can all see the statistics of the class…which they do not.”</p>
<p>Why do the schools have to do that? The schools are private. The schools can do what they want. They aren’t the government. The schools aren’t hurting for applicants. If the schools don’t want to publish all these statistics…why should they? And you or your kids don’t have to go to these schools either. It’s your choice, right? There are plenty of great schools to choose from.</p>
<p>I think the cost of education is way too high…but nobody listens to me.
I gotta go…</p>
<p>Debrockman, You say your husband was dirt poor and got merit aid to go to undergrad.That is wonderful but that money came from somewhere and perhaps from the generous help of families more fortunate financially than his (through endowment, alumni giving, taxpayer help ,etc). The money came from somewhere. That help allowed him to go on to medical school and provide for your family at a very good income (I believe you said well over 200000-correct me if I’m wrong). There are many kids out there now who would love to have that kind of opportunity . Your husband had very poor roots from your own description but you seem to have no empathy for those in that position today.</p>
<p>I am totally for the private funding of merit scholarships. People can do what they want with their money. But charging one person one thing and another person something else for the same thing is not libertarian.</p>
<p>Okay, except it IS libertarian from the standpoint of the institution who may value having a diverse campus more than they value having a flat price…So, it doesn’t “feel” libertarian, except that is only if you believe the only value a student has can come from thier financial ability to pay. The schools, however, believe the value can be priced differently based on what each student brings to the table. This is not always money, which can be easier to come by than some other things the institution values. Which doesn’t mean it isn’t libertarian. fwiw</p>
<p>Yes, and a university can do whatever they want with their money as well-including things you obviously don’t like-like actually helping kids that don’t have the money your kid has.</p>
<p>I wonder what the effect on average price paid would be if an adcom/finaid officer had to personally interview each applicant, give them their aid package, and allow them to bargain/explain…not considering logistical problems, staffing, etc…just a thought.</p>
<p>Airlines charge different prices based on when you buy the ticket, how many tickets you buy, etc. - not on how deep your pockets are or whether you’re an under-represented-passenger.</p>
<p>OT- Have y’all noticed that different ads come up when you are looking at different threads on cc? I was just looking at the “business casual” attire thread in the cafe and there were clothing ads. Now, when I come back to this thread there is a dating site of some sort. Jeebus. These interweb marketeers are getting sophisticated.</p>