<p>White female, live in Ohio, 3.9 GPA, 33 ACT (retaking), want to major in math, top 3% of class, seven AP classes, EC's are not noteworthy.
I'm applying to OSU and some out-of-state colleges but I'm not sure my admission would be 100% guaranteed so I need some safeties to look into. They don't have to be in-state.</p>
<p>University of Delaware maybe?</p>
<p>OSU = true safety and you will likely get a scholarship with those numbers. Nevertheless, for math, here are some other ideas re publics: Purdue, Michigan, Maryland, and Illinois. Assuming money is no object and you want something smaller consider: Harvey Mudd, Rose Hulman, Oberlin, Reed, Williams, Carleton, and Macalester.</p>
<p>@muckdogs07 - Schools like Williams, Reed, and Harvey Mudd are most definitely NOT safeties.</p>
<p>^ Not to mention that Williams and Harvey Mudd meet full need if the OP has need while the OP would (most likely) be full pay for OOS publics. The stats, while very good, are not the eye watering numbers needed for merit at schools like UMich.</p>
<p>u of akron as a safety
college of wooster because it is amazing
u of pittsburgh ain’t to shabby either</p>
<p>Agree that you are in at OSU, it is a safety for you already.</p>
<p>FWIW - OSU as a safety for 3.9 GPA depends if it is weighted or unweighted…at my D’s school (rigorous public HS), students with weighted GPA’s in the 3.8/3.9 range are being told this year that OSU is not a definite safety anymore from our particular high school (although the 33 ACT is strong).</p>
<p>@muckdogs07 - Schools like Williams, Reed, and Harvey Mudd are most definitely NOT safeties.</p>
<p>Agree, just suggesting some LACs the OP might consider. Agree UM not a safety either, although I think Illinois, Maryland, and Purdue probably are safeties. Same for Mac and RHU.</p>
<p>For in state with 33 on ACT and top 3% of class, OSU is most assuredly a safety (99%).</p>
<p>3.9 GPA is unweighted.</p>
<p>How advanced are you in math? If you have already completed calculus BC and are taking college math courses like multivariable calculus while still in high school, then you may want to look for schools with strong graduate math programs and a large selection of upper division undergraduate math courses, in order to avoid exhausting the math offerings at your college. (Besides, if you are that far ahead, you’ll skip the large introductory math courses and go straight to the small upper division math courses anyway.)</p>
<p>3.9 unweighted and 33 ACT seems like it would be hard not to get admitted to The Ohio State University, which is very respectable for math. Minnesota and Stony Brook are other very respectable schools for math that are not that expensive for out-of-state and not super-selective.</p>
<p>I’m a junior. I’m taking Calculus BC this year and some college math courses next year.</p>
<p>Umd college park can probably be considered a safety, although being OOS may slightly lower your chances. Same with umich.</p>
<p>Mudd will like you, and has some scholarships aimed at women, so it might be worth a shot. It’s not a safety - they will meet need, but that will include some loans.</p>
<p>ucbalumnus said —How advanced are you in math? If you have already completed calculus BC and are taking college math courses like multivariable calculus while still in high school, then you may want to look for schools with strong graduate math programs and a large selection of upper division undergraduate math courses, in order to avoid exhausting the math offerings at your college. (Besides, if you are that far ahead, you’ll skip the large introductory math courses and go straight to the small upper division math courses anyway.)</p>
<p>My daughter has a somewhat similar situation. High school senior (BC calc 9th grade, 60 cr. hrs. calculus-based science/math, research paper last summer, grad level course in 12th grade). After getting accepted early at state university for a safety, she realized she would not be happy there and wants to go somewhere new (since many courses have been taken there during high school.) Now looking for two safeties, that would provide strong grad math programs, especially in a school that a strong student would enjoy. Any suggestions? I can see now why it is good to have a choice in safeties—</p>
<p>Stemom, probably your flagship U (depending on the state). Also you need to consider the costs (what you can pay) to determine a safety.</p>
<p>xposted with UCBalumnus</p>
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<p>That is pretty advanced to be taking graduate level math courses while still in high school.</p>
<p>Safeties would depend on the student’s academic credentials and affordability based on cost and financial aid.</p>
<p>There are places like Minnesota, Stony Brook, Rutgers, Wisconsin, Purdue, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Washington, Ohio State, Utah, UC Davis, etc. that have good math reputations but are not super-selective. But there may not be much financial aid for out-of-state students (although the first two have relatively low out-of-state list prices). However, if she is taking graduate level courses in high school, she may want to check the offerings at each school to see what specializations within math (algebra and number theory, analysis, topology, logic, etc.) it is strong in, and whether that matches her interests. Of course, your in-state public universities (particularly the flagship) should be investigated.</p>
<p>Thanks for helping.
I looked at rankings from US News, found Wisconsin (tied with Northwestern), Minnesota, Rutgers, Illinois all in top 20. Stony Brook, Johns Hopkins, Purdue, Indiana, Ohio State, Rice, UNC, Utah, CMU, UC-Davis in top 40. You narrowed it down by selectivityis that why you omitted JHU, Rice, UNC, CMU?
Our flagship is the school she has already attended during high schoolhence the wish for new environs, though it is a good research university. Although she has gotten a chance to work in-depth in one area, it is too early to identify a specialty, and overall breadth is most important factor. Also, she may want to be in some other scientific field.
I know a little about Wisconsin, Stony Brook, Indiana…none of the others. I’ll start by looking at Minnesota and Stony Brook costs.<br>
I’m also having trouble identifying match schools. I think way too much focus for us has gone into the top tier schools— and I’m only realizing it now.</p>
<p>OSU should be your safety school. You’ll get in there with decent aid, although you should only attend if you don’t get anything better than you can afford because your stats are fairly high for state school. Your targets and reach schools should be more prestigious coastal schools.</p>
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<p>Yes, since the subject of this thread is safeties. JHU, Rice, UNC-CH (out-of-state), and CMU are selective enough that no one should consider them safeties.</p>
<p>The safeties are the most important schools on the application list. With your daughter as advanced as she is in math, the default safety of community-college-then-transfer would not work out too well for her.</p>