If that's what it takes to win, I would rather lose!

<p>Well if this it true, good for State.</p>

<p>Blah- I follow Michigan recruiting pretty closely and just from that I know that Aziz ****tu is either going to USC or Washington, probably the trojans, and Garnett is a strong Michigan lean at this point. The top two prospects you listed are not gonna end up going to Stanford. They may have submitted apps but athletes submit apps to pretty much everywhere they get a scholarship offer. It doesn’t mean they’re seriously considering the school. And yeah, check out 2012 class rankings.</p>

<p>wayneandgarth, the blog spot in your link was posted two days ago and since nothing was announced yesterday, I suspect it was just speculation. All MSU announced was that it was reviewing the situtation.</p>

<p>Below is a link to the WSJ with an interesting article about Sparty’s ability to control its behavior when playing against Big Blue:</p>

<p>[What’s</a> the Dirtiest College-Football Rivalry? - WSJ.com](<a href=“What's the Dirtiest College-Football Rivalry? - WSJ”>What's the Dirtiest College-Football Rivalry? - WSJ)</p>

<p>eziamm,</p>

<p>Stanford is the only BCS school that formally requires recruits to submit an application and get accepted. So no, recruits don’t submit applications with essays “to everywhere”. And unlike everywhere else, recruits can get rejected from Stanford. So if recruits take the time to achieve the minimum SAT score required for Stanford (along with taking the mandated AP courses by admissions) and submit an application with essays and recommendations, they are serious. Aziz also recently canceled a visit to nebraska to REtake his SATs. Gee, that must have been for USC or Washington, right?</p>

<p>Don’t speculate on stuff you don’t know about.</p>

<p>Regardless, Garnett is a heavy Michigan lean, and Aziz withdrew his verbal from Stanford. You don’t withdraw a commitment unless you are seriously considering other school, which he obviously is.</p>

<p>At the end of the day, Stanford football will return to irrelevancy where it belongs and Michigan will be winning Big Ten championships with Shane Morris. I hope you have fun filling a quarter of your 30,000 seat stadium and listening to your trashy, make-shift (and awfully stupid) marching band.</p>

<p>Aziz is not going to Stanford, I am not speculating. I do know a lot about the recruiting trail and I would bet a lot of money against him going to Stanford. And yeah, maybe the ACT was for USC or Washington. They’re not on the academic level of Stanford but they’re no slouch schools either. I’m still wondering why you’re trolling over here as well. Stanford has never had and will haver have the football tradition and long-term success that has been built at Michigan.</p>

<p>And I have no idea where you’re getting the formal application bit. I have multiple personal friends that are now D1 football players (none at Stanford) and they all had to submit an application. You’re just 100% wrong about that one.</p>

<p>When it comes to USC or UW football players (see their 16/18 ACT or 900 SAT with a 2.8 GPA recruits this year. Whatever score Aziz got the first time around is good enough for 'SC), you can be illiterate and still get in. So don’t even try to use that argument. As for your application premise, find me one player that was ever rejected from an FBS level school for academics. Just one. I too know recruits to Cal, Yale, and Arizona and several other Pac-12 schools. Only the yale one had to do a rigorous application resulting in a likely letter. Like I told you before, 2 players out of ALL accepted foot recruits to Stanford decided not to come in the past 8 years. How can you not conclude submitting a Stanford app does not entail solid interest? If they weren’t interested, why would they write essays and retake tests to gain admittance to Stanford when they could commit elsewhere with an automatic acceptance? That’s some great logic.</p>

<p>Marching band slam!</p>

<p>didn’t we reject Demar Dorsey?</p>

<p>also what was the full story behind Tate?</p>

<p>[Michigan</a> lose top recruit Demar Dorsey due to admission concerns](<a href=“Michigan lose top recruit Demar Dorsey due to admission concerns”>Michigan lose top recruit Demar Dorsey due to admission concerns)</p>

<p>While on the surface it might seem to have been due to academics, it was really due to his robbery charges and other legal transgressions.</p>

<p>See here for recruits “rejected”:
<a href=“ダイエットジムの比較ポイントは?料金だけで選ぶのはNG|ダイエットジムの効果とは”>ダイエットジムの比較ポイントは?料金だけで選ぶのはNG|ダイエットジムの効果とは;

<p>Big time recruits only get rejected by the NCAA and not by most schools for not meeting minimum academic requirements. As in the case above, schools care more about a recruit’s background. If there are any legal worries about the recruit that might lead to NCAA violations later on, the school is more likely to not take the recruit. Interesting Stanford offered but ultimately the school denied giving him an application to even try.</p>

<p>I think Hoke sums it up very well… </p>

<p>[Brady</a> Hoke stands by Denard Robinson, dodges Gholston question | Detroit Free Press | freep.com](<a href=“http://www.freep.com/article/20111020/SPORTS06/111020023/Brady-Hoke-stands-by-Denard-Robinson-dodges-Gholston-question?odyssey=nav|head]Brady”>http://www.freep.com/article/20111020/SPORTS06/111020023/Brady-Hoke-stands-by-Denard-Robinson-dodges-Gholston-question?odyssey=nav|head)</p>

<p>The punch and Gholston’s ripping of U-M quarterback Denard Robinson’s facemask have gotten the most attention this week, but Hoke wasn’t addressing it when asked if “anyone was over the line.”</p>

<p>“That’s not the reason why Michigan State beat Michigan on Saturday,” Hoke said. “The reasons they beat us was they played a better football game, a more complete football game and the physicalness they played with. We matched at times but at other times we didn’t, so all those things honestly don’t mean anything. </p>

<p>And MSU fans seem to like the sports writer Mitch Albom’s branding of the Spartans as “mean green”</p>

<p>You have to start wondering where this guy is getting his information. He was already dead wrong on only Stanford requiring an application from football players and individual admission results aren’t public. How the hell would he know that only two players who got into stanford in the last eight years turned it down? I’m calling total bs. And still wondering why this guy’s still here.</p>

<p>Scout.com or rivals.com. Take your pick. Stanford recruits divulge whether or not they received an application and if they got in or not. So yes, admissions results are public.</p>

<p>And you’ve followed every single one’s application for the past eight years? Btw scout and rivals still aren’t the school. I guess a kid’s never lied before though.</p>

<p>Well…they also have a reported academic profile. I know what the academic profile for football admittees are. It’s not hard to connect the dots. if you want an even more concrete source, the Stanford coaches now tweet acceptances. And they used to announce it in news releases to Stanford people prior to that.</p>

<p>Unless you’re inside the admissions office or athletic office at Stanford you would have no idea exactly what they look for academically from a football applicant. They don’t report that, they report the school as a whole. I still think you’re making 90% of this up.</p>

<p>Let’s see, you’re an 18 year old freshman and you’re going to call my bluff? I tutored football players as a student at Stanford and helped recruit engineering applicants when I was there. So yes, I am intimately familiar with what admissions looked for in football SCHOLAR athletes. Additionally, there have been several books written by former admissions officers at Stanford detailing what they looked for when they made admissions decisions for regular students and athletes (there was a 1 to 5 scale for academics and a 1 to 5 scale for extracurricular accomplishments. Obviously, you would have no idea.) You declared it as fact that Garnett is a Michigan lean. We’ll see soon enough. In the meantime, better get back to class. Freshman.</p>

<p>Gholston was suspended today by the B10 for the Wisky/MSU game.</p>

<p>“better get back to class. Freshman.”</p>

<p>That was so lame in high school…</p>

<p>Pathetic in college…</p>

<p>Don’t even know what it’s considered if you’re saying that and you’re out of college…</p>

<p>MSU will lose to Wisconsin with or without Gholston. Wisconsin too prolific offensively, Russell Wilson is a MONSTER.</p>