<p>the problem that arises is the peer assessment score / reputation of some of these schools</p>
<p>according to US News, no school below a 4.4/5.0 is an ivy league school</p>
<p>thus, Gtown, Rice, and a few others over there couldn't be ivy league, b/c they simply don't have the reputation of some of those others</p>
<p>MIT can't be an Ivy League institution, IMO. It lacked the liberal arts tradition.</p>
<p>Here's the story of the Ivy League -- and at one point it was going to expand to 12 when it was 10 members, the current 8 plus Army & Navy. When Army & Navy didn't join, invitations went out to Colgate and Georgetown. Georgetown wouldn't get rid of its Jesuit standing so Johns Hopkins was asked and said it didn't want to upgrade its sports program. That left Colgate as the 9th Ivy. Tufts was apparently in the running but nothing was offered. Subsequently, it remained at the current 8 since they couldn't even it out. The 9th Ivy, Colgate, then joined forces with Army & Navy and Georgetown in the '80s to form the Patriot League along with Holy Cross and the 3 PA schools: Lehigh, Lafayette & Bucknell.</p>
<p>Anyway, the question is moot since it's not going to expand in the near future and if it did, they may go back to Army & Navy -- or to Colgate and a "college to be named later."</p>
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I don't f#@%ing believe it. You ARE an MIT cheerleader?
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Hee, true story. I like to tell people that and watch the veins pop out of their heads as they try to compute the conflicting stereotypes. :D</p>
<p>Slightly off-topic, but Yale tried to merge with Vassar to become co-ed (back in the 60s, I think). Vassar didn't and went co-ed on its own (the only seven sister school to do that). Just an interesting tidbit about ivy league school expansion.</p>
<p>brainy hotties. lol. I especially like the last pic. lovely isometric polyhedron, whatever.
web.mit.edu/cheer/gallery.html</p>
<p>And if you want to pick me out in the group photos, look for the girl with the whitest legs. ;)</p>
<p>Stanford and MIT</p>
<p>MIT mascot: the noble beaver. I want to know how they convinced some guy with 1600 SATs that it would be a good idea to put on the beaver costume.</p>
<p>^ AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAA SO TRUE</p>
<p>But hey, I would do it. Although I guess I would have to with my lowly 1580. it would be a deal i made with Dean Jones.</p>
<p>hahahahahha.</p>
<p>I thought it was obvious--Stanford and Duke.
If we're talking about geography Tufts and Georgetown.</p>
<p>There isn't any school that fits, the few schools out there of the same academic caliber aren't good fits. MAYBE Chicago.</p>
<p>collegeparent's story is not true....it is urban legend and Holy Cross actually has its own version of turning down the Ivies b/c they wanted HC to drop its Catholic affiliation. All of this is simply not true. Imagine the nerve of the Ivy president's asking the nation's oldest jesuit institution (Georgetown) to drop its catholic affiliation....implausible. </p>
<p>Further, Georgetown is only an associate football member....they had no hand in the formation of the Patriot League. They have been Big East for the past twenty years....GTown never participated in the PL in anyway.</p>
<p>One HC priest reveals in "Thy Honored Name: A History of the College of the Holy Cross" that HC approached the Ivies through Dartmouth and Harvard in the mid 80's as to joining but things did not work out. The Patriot League quickly followed.</p>
<p>"Problem is Georgetown is Catholic and W&M is public, and most Ivy types woudl rather sell their polo ponies to the glue factory than mix with Catholics and public-school riff-raff."</p>
<p>That's the best thing I've ever read! Kudos, TourGuide.</p>
<p>molliebatmit--An MIT cheerleader?! I didn't think places like MIT had cheerleaders. That's incredible! =D</p>
<p>original topic... imo, prolly what everyone's aleady said... Stanford and Duke have both been long regarded as basically Ivies, barring the reality of geography, of course. ;)</p>
<p>Actually, taking other factors aside from academics into account, I would insert Duke in place of MIT.</p>
<p>Duke and Stanford would never give up their ability to grant scholarships to athletes though.</p>
<p>Haha megan, if I remember correctly, molliebatmit got started on CC because she was told people on CC were criticizing MIT's cheerleading squad. </p>
<p>Ivies are in the Northeast, universities, ~4-6000 undergrads (Cornell being the exception), private, and highly selective...I vote Georgetown and Johns Hopkins. Possibly Tufts. If location wasn't a factor, definitely Rice. </p>
<p>Schools like U Chicago and Duke don't want to be part of the Ivy league.</p>
<p>How about the Cooper Union? Selective and stuff...</p>
<p>i still wonder how cornell got into the ivy league. its so much younger than so many universities in america. wasnt it founded in 1865?</p>
<p>Huge Colgate fan, but I dont understand why Colgate would be considered as an ivy. Isnt its stats just too low? Its ranked 15th in liberal arts. If its not even close to the top LAC (Williams and Amherst), how can it stand next to Harvard, Princeton, Yale ?</p>