<p>I challenge him to shoot me dead with lightning to prove his existence.</p>
<p><em>waits</em></p>
<p>Oh whuddya know, no lightning. hmmm :D</p>
<p>It doesn't work that way and you know it.</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
<p>Yes It Does. Shush You.</p>
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<p>Not that I condone Jman's arrogance in thinking that any supreme being would specifically be watching him at all moments, Snoop, how can you possibly presume to know how "it does work"? That, as well, shows ignorance.</p>
<p>I've seen God change people's teeth into gold and I've seen disabled people get healed 0_0</p>
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<p>Something about being omniscient and omnipresent, or something.</p>
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Snoop, how can you possibly presume to know how "it does work"?
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<p>He's stating what doesn't work, not what does. There's a difference. Knowing what doesn't work takes less knowledge.</p>
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<p>I thought that God was supposed to be everywhere.</p>
<p>I'm a girl. </p>
<p>Please continue, though.</p>
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...the words of an engineer. Can you prove this with mathematics? I'm working on a proof as we speak.</p>
<p>Has anyone else been touched by the noodly appendage of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? He has totally changed my life. :D</p>
<p>^ old meme is old?</p>
<p>It's a pity the displayed intelligence of the atheist community boils down to this at times.</p>
<p>You're a meanie. I was being sarcastic. Duh.</p>
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<p>The intelligent members of the atheistic community know better than to talk logic and reason on a topic that eschews logic and reason.</p>
<p>Pastafarianism isnt a meme. it's just atheist trying to prove a point,haha.</p>
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Ridiculous, God would not waste time on such trivialities.</p>
<p>He can turn apple juice into milk. Enough said, really.</p>
<p>(I'm not an atheist btw)</p>
<p>"The intelligent members of the atheistic community know better than to talk logic and reason on a topic that eschews logic and reason."</p>
<p>I beg to differ, Easy. Read C.S. Lewis. Incredibly logical. Sound Reason. Christian. His book, Mere Christianity is amazing.</p>
<p>Also, it is is curious to ponder whether logic can solve things solely. America has pivoted back and forth between logic and experience since its conception. Should we not find a median?</p>
<p>... Who gave you logic? If you say man, what does it matter, then, since all man is dust? If you say it was evolutionary, read further...</p>
<p>Why is logic a desire of the mind, the soul? If you say it is in place to fulfill a needs of the present, why do we have this desire? Why do we wish to fulfill needs and wants at all? There is something inside of us that cannot have been developed over time that desires to fulfill needs, personal or otherwise, by some sort of means.</p>
<p>Why. is. it. there?</p>
<p>I say all this not to be pompous, but out of love AND logic (much like how C.G. Finney, a controversial revivalist of the 19th century, presented his sermons, though I disagree with his interpretation of the atonement).</p>
<p>Will you listen?</p>
<p>Listening should not be confused with believing. </p>
<p>As for C.S. Lewis, I'm not particularly well versed in his philosophy (at all), but I do see some major flaws in his reasoning. Take for example his Law of Human Nature (one of his main theories - it's on wikipedia). Lewis states that all human beings, at their cores, have the same set of moral standards. He preempts a counterexample of how while people of the past deliberately killed "witches," people of the present believe it is wrong to do so by saying that their differences were a difference in fact, that if the people of the past had known the witches were not real witches, then they too would have believed it wrong to kill someone. </p>
<p>We will first ignore the painfully obvious fact that while Lewis tries to explain some of the knots in his theory, he doesn't prove his base assumption that universal morality exists to be true. We will also ignore the fact that some people think it's wrong to kill anyone period, which would overturn his theory that EVERYONE, according to the Law of Human Nature, believes witches should die. I think we can agree that people use their moral standards to evaluate situations, taking into account the circumstances at the time of the situation (e.g. murder is wrong but death penalty legal). So Lewis asking us to disassociate facts and circumstances from situations when thinking about morality is virtually impossible. Unsound reasoning. </p>
<p>It's actually not very curious at all to ponder whether logic can solve things soley because it usually can, especially when you logically ponder about it. Although this slippery topic of religion always makes it so frustrating :/. I did not realize experience and logic were mutually exclusive tools a country could use. Today our government seems to use neither so I guess there's your median.</p>
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You're a meanie. I was being sarcastic. Duh.
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As was I. Duh. ;)</p>
<p>Stop being Aristotle wannabes</p>