<p>The year my D graduated HS(2008) NJ sent over 31000 kids to out of state schools while about 4100 students from other states came to NJ.
I read that NJ spends about $10 billion in out of state college costs.</p>
<p>207 of them are at UIUC - more than from any state other than Illinois and California.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.dmi.illinois.edu/stuenr/abstracts/FA12_ten.htm[/url]”>http://www.dmi.illinois.edu/stuenr/abstracts/FA12_ten.htm</a></p>
<p>Are the 207 from all years or just frosh year? From the chart it appears to be all years, but maybe I’m not reading it correctly.</p>
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<p>What would this be? In Michigan there is no transportable money from the state. A very small tax break all for people whose kids stay in-state at publics. Perhaps that is why so few go out of state? If NJ is giving kids money that they can take to another state, then that is a reason kids might have for leaving the state and that is a state issue.</p>
<p>207 total undergraduate enrollment, Fall 2012</p>
<p>mom of three: I assumed that what he meant was that NJ <em>residents</em> spend about $10billion, not the state government.</p>
<p>The situation was certainly the same in the early 1970s, when I was in college. I remember friends from NJ commenting on it. For the best students, the choice was either go to Princeton, if you could get in, (And I think Princeton was still single sex then. For that matter, Rutgers did not go coed until 1970, and women went to Douglass College.) or go OOS. There was a certain perception that NJ kids had it tougher in NE LAC admissions because there were so many of them applying.</p>
<p>Edit: Princeton went coed in 1969.</p>
<p>^^ That makes more sense Consolation, in this day and age I can’t imagine any state “allowing” kids to take state dollars to another state. I know this was stopped in Michigan in 2006. Prior to that kids could take a percent of the state merit money they earned out of state. Now, what eventually was called the Promise Scholarship, is no longer available to any students no it’s moot.</p>
<p>Yes I meant NJ residents. That is still quite a transfer of a revenue stream though.</p>
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That may often happen in smaller geographical states…very easy to cross a border and enroll. Do a number attend SUNYs and CUNYs? </p>
<p>Do any of the NJ border counties have tuition agreements with the border states? I know that the students who live in certain counties bordering my state get instate tuition.</p>
<p>I am unaware of any tuition agreements. This has been going on for years so other states have never had the need to make the offer.</p>
<p>I would also bet that in terms of a % of student population NJ sends more students to private schools. We are a wealthy state and the NE generally is more of a private school area.</p>
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<p>True…but the Tri-State area is also a high tax area which limits the ability for those in that gray area of incomes around $100k.</p>
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<p>That may be - but then how does one explain the fact that UIUC enrolls more kids from New Jersey than any state other than Illinois or California?</p>
<p>New Jersey is the biggest “exporter” of college students in the country. It simply doesn’t have enough seats in its in-state colleges for all the students it produces.</p>
<p>New Jersey residents account for the largest out-of-state contingent at the University of Maryland, for example. </p>
<p>[New</a> Jersey’s student drain is gain for District colleges - The Washington Post](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/new-jerseys-student-drain-is-gain-for-district-colleges/2012/01/19/gIQAkjiAMQ_story.html]New”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/new-jerseys-student-drain-is-gain-for-district-colleges/2012/01/19/gIQAkjiAMQ_story.html)</p>
<p>NJ kids love the BIG. They want the experience of big time sports and the culture at most BIG schools fit that. We also send a significant number of kids to the ACC schools. I bet NJ ranks high in terms of kids at most public universities.</p>
<p>That could account for the high NJ enrollment at Maryland, Tom. </p>
<p>But another factor may be that many NJ kids are Jewish, and the University of Maryland is known for its large and thriving Jewish community.</p>
<p>I wonder if the large number of California kids at UIUC is strictly a function of population, or whether California’s well-documented capacity issues at its public colleges (and comparative lack of private alternatives, given its population) plays a major role.</p>
<p>NJ kids have looked to go away to college since I was a kid in the 60’s. That includes eveything from B1G type schools to small LACs in the midwest. NJ is so small it’s just nice to really get away. See another area.</p>
<p>Tuition and other costs at the UC are so high and access so messed up that it costs only a bit more or even less to go to a major OOS school. Their enrollment at UW has tripled in a few years.</p>
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<p>The capacity problems at California public schools hit the community colleges the worst, then the CSUs. The UCs are least affected. The students who go to community colleges and CSUs are less likely to be the ones who would consider going to places like UIUC (and many would not be able to get admitted to UIUC).</p>
<p>As far as New Jersey goes, isn’t it obvious that so many New Jersey students posting here asking for college suggestions have an “anywhere but Rutgers [or other in-state public school]” attitude, to the point that some won’t even consider a potential in-state full ride at Rutgers as a reasonable safety?</p>
<p>Lots of New Jersey kids do attend U Maryland, but it’s not the most popular OOS choice.</p>
<p>New Jersey freshmen enrolled at Big Ten schools, Fall 2010:</p>
<p>Penn State 792
Michigan 234
Indiana 79
Northwestern 74
Purdue 70
Ohio State 60
Wisconsin 59
Michigan State 40
Illinois 37
Iowa 9
Minnesota 3
Nebraska 3</p>
<p>Some other popular OOS choices:</p>
<p>UDel 576
Temple 404
Maryland 393
West Virginia 386
VaTech 257
UMass Amherst 237
Pitt 217
U Vermont 179
Binghamton 145
UConn 140
South Carolina 128
Arizona State 102
Colorado-Boulder 93
Clemson 85
UVA 80
Arizona 73
Stony Brook 64
UNC Chapel Hill 50
Alabama 46
Buffalo 43
Georgia 43
UC Berkeley 33
Georgia Tech 29</p>
<p>I think this is more than just a question of capacity at New Jersey’s public universities. Many, many New Jersey kids seem to affirmatively want alternatives to Rutgers, and to “go away to school,” whether public or private. Some of the exports couldn’t get into Rutgers, but many got into OOS schools that are tougher admits than Rutgers.</p>