Where do IL Freshman go??

<p>Missouri.. looks like. Interesting breakdown on where IL kids head out of state~</p>

<p><a href="http://media.apps.chicagotribune.com/tables/illinois-college-students.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://media.apps.chicagotribune.com/tables/illinois-college-students.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Actually Iowa. Click on the column headings to sort the data</p>

<p>University of Iowa Iowa 1528 4565 33.5%
University of Missouri-Columbia Missouri 1091 6138 17.8%</p>

<p>Interesting data. I would have thought UW-Madison would have been higher in the rankings due to its proximity to the greater Chicago area. However, getting accepted has been more difficult recently. Tuition costs may also factor in.</p>

<p>Top 25 (excluding online):</p>

<ol>
<li>Iowa 1528</li>
<li>Missouri 1091</li>
<li>Indiana 879 </li>
<li>Marquette 719
5.Wisconsin-Madison 674</li>
<li>Purdue 597</li>
<li>St. Louis U 553</li>
<li>Iowa State 549</li>
<li>St. Ambrose (WI) 367
10, Michigan 347</li>
<li>Michigan State 285</li>
<li>Notre Dame 280</li>
<li>Dayton 279</li>
<li>Wisconsin-Platteville 247</li>
<li>Wisconsin-Whitewater 246</li>
<li>Minnesota-Twin Cities 238</li>
<li>Indiana State 231</li>
<li>Ranken Technical College (MO) 228</li>
<li>Butler (IN) 212</li>
<li>Carroll U (WI) 212</li>
<li>SE Missouri State 209 </li>
<li>Western Michigan 198</li>
<li>Grand Valley State (MI) 196</li>
<li>Arizona State 193</li>
<li>U Colorado-Boulder 192</li>
</ol>

<p>Total, top 25 schools: 12,850. That’s a lot of exports.</p>

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<p>With 674 Illinois freshmen, Wisconsin-Madison is doing quite well, especially when you consider the cost which is much higher than at Iowa or Missouri. That’s almost as many freshmen as Wisconsin gets from Minnesota, which has tuition reciprocity.</p>

<p>And a third of the freshman class at UIowa is from Illinois. Wonder how our Hawkeye friends feel about that?</p>

<p>That’s cool.</p>

<p>Darn! I opened this thread and expected to see a punchline! ;)</p>

<p>Okay, I’ll add one: Where do IL Freshmen go? To the doctor. Kids can’t spell right these days.</p>

<p>What Mizzou is doing grants in-state tuition for high-stats IL residents providing they live in MO for 12 consecutive months AND earn $2,000 in that timeframe. So it’s (round figures here) $35K for freshman year out-the-door, then 20K thereafter. Our next-door neighbors have a D that will probably take advantage of this.</p>

<p>It’s definitely a bold move. As the story implies, Mizzou wants that high-achieving Illinois resident that cannot get into UIUC, or does not want to go there, a refrain I have heard more & more lately. In effect, it’s low-hanging fruit from a cost standpoint.</p>

<p>Iowa gives what I think is called a Scholars Award for OOS high achievers that amounts to (again, round figures) $5k a year off OOS tuition, which has risen almost $10,000 in the last 5-6 years. It makes Iowa not nearly the OOS value it used to be.</p>

<p>And I believe you don’t see UW-Madison represented much higher on that list simply because–like UIUC–it’s so hard to get admitted. The Madison Initiative has also raised overall tuition a bunch as well. Additonally, IL does not have any type of reciprocity agreement with WI like Minnesota does, as was stated upthread.</p>

<p>Our HS just had a FAFSA/Student Assistance meeting for parents, they stated IL did not do reciprocity with neighboring state because they want to hang on to high achieving IL students, so… doesnt look like that is working. U of I is $30k + in state , much cheaper to go to IA, MO, or IN w/ auto merit scholarships.</p>

<p>It’s too bad for the Illinois students that there is no reciprocity for them in various neighboring states. Also, honestly, it’s not good for the system. For example, a lot of stellar students would like to go to UIC and be in such a great location in Chicago. It would be good for the school and good for the city, too.</p>

<p>But, as we know, Illinois is not known for taking the “long view” when creating policy. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Not true about being cheaper to go OOS to Iowa than UIUC in-state. Out-the-door costs are around $37,000, and with the Scholars Award that comes down to about $32-something. They’re extremely selective about the Old Gold Scholarships, so don’t count on that either.</p>

<p>Mizzou is the best buy on the board with the in-state deal after freshman year for high-achievers described upthread, approximately $95K over 4 years, about $24,000 a year.</p>

<p>ldavis, whoever made that presentation at your school is sadly out of date.</p>

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<p>I can verify that it is in effect. My D is a student at a school in Missouri and gets a substantial tuition discount because she is an Illinois resident.</p>

<p>Well that’s good to see Annasdad.</p>

<p>Iowa State is also a great bargain. Tuition/Fees/Room/Board is $27,500 for OOS. With a 3.75/25+ ACT you will likely qualify for their $4,500 award.</p>

<p>ISU has seen their total IL undergrad enrollment go from about 1400 in 2009 to 1800 in 2011. They are expecting to have over 600 IL frosh next Fall.</p>

<p>The state of Iowa does not have enough high school grads to fill the 4500-5500 student freshman classes that Iowa and Iowa State want to maintain. Combine that with budget cuts and the fact that OOS students generally pay between $10,000-$15,000 more per year in tuition and it is a huge win for both schools. We love the FIBs.:)</p>

<p>All three public universities in Iowa used to offer a small discount ($1000 or so) for out-of-state students who are children or grand-children of alumni. I don’t know if that scholarship still exists. Not a lot of money, but enough to cover books for that OOS grandkid.</p>

<p>Iowa State and Iowa offer $1500 for their “Generations Award”</p>

<p>Back-handed compliment, Hay. I forged the trail in '75, brought some ‘Chicago class’ to Iowa City. And the administration saw, they liked what they saw, and here we are 37 years down the line with this lovefest, albeit monetarily. :)</p>

<p>I’ll tell you, I WAS one of the few back then, and I totallly enjoyed it that way. A little hippie, a little rural, and very cool folks.</p>

<p>Will be driving through IC on the way to Des Moines today. Maybe will stop at The Hamburg Inn for lunch!</p>

<p>I think that Generations Award was $500 back in 2009, when D2 applied–she was 3rd generation legacy. Obviously it’s more now.</p>

<p>I’ll give a little bit of an out of state perspective on UIUC and Illinois kids at other schools. I am originally from Michigan but I looked at grad schools out of state, including Illinois. I’m surprised kids look down so much on U of I since I really liked the school when I visited it over a year ago. I didn’t end up there since I don’t think I would’ve got into the accounting graduate program. I thought it was going to be complete cornfields but the town seemed pretty nice and I thought U of I had a better campus and a lot better academics than say a Michigan State. I would say in the Big Ten pecking order UIUC would be near the top, below UMich and Northwestern, and just barely below UWisconsin. </p>

<p>As for Illinois kids going to other states its a good thing and schools love to recruit in Illinois. Bclintonk list is a tiny bit out of date, as some of those schools have increased Illinois residents for their freshmen classes. In the 2012 freshmen class at Grand Valley State University in Michigan there were 214 Illinois residents, and that number should be increased quite a bit in the coming years. Like other OOS schools, GVSU gives a lot of deals to out of state students. It is $22568 for out of state tuition and room and board at Grand Valley State. Plus, if a student gets a 26 ACT and a 3.5 GPA then you can get instate tuition plus $1500 a year at GVSU. That would bring GVSU’s tuition down to $8500 a year.</p>