<p>As someone who lives 5 mins away from Vassar College, I am outraged at their tuition rates, they are simply just NOT worth it.
If I were you, I would take my money and go somewhere more prestigious that has a better name. </p>
<p>Contrary to popular belief, Vassar isn't in the middle of nowhere at all. It's in Poughkeepsie. What does that mean? You live 5 minutes away from mansions where doctors and lawyers live, the best public school district for miles. 5 mins the other way? The ghetto, where the drug dealers live and high crime rate.
Did they show you that on your campus tour? I bet not.
Ever heard of the Poughkeepsie tapes? Based off a serial killer about 8 mins away from Vassar, if that.</p>
<p>Vassar grows some of the food they feed their students, and are known for killing off a <em>massive</em> amount of deers that were eating their food.</p>
<p>Vassar is close to stores. You're about 7ish mins away from college places (panera, the mall, coldstone, the mall)</p>
<p>I attended Vassar for a summer program, and lived in the dorms. They were nothing to brag about, not worth 43k a year that's for sure. My professor was nice though, I'll give them that.</p>
<p>If I were you, I would attend somewhere better. If you can get in here, I'd go elsewhere.. I will be happy to answer any questions you have if you would like.</p>
<p>One question: Where do you go to college?</p>
<p>This post was formulated by my friend (who also grew up here) and myself. I don’t attend college yet.
She attends Carnegie mellon.
The summer program we both attended was ‘summer scholars’</p>
<p>This is strictly factual, and you don’t have to listen. But before you spend $43k a year, you should know your facts.</p>
<p>Although I will admit that my financial aid was excellent (just like it was at other top tier schools) why does it matter that I can walk to Panera from the campus? And how does not being in the middle of nowhere make the college not worth 43k per year? (it’s actually 55k per year with room and board included, btw) Carnegie Mellon is even less in the middle of nowhere…</p>
<p>A lot of people take their environment into consideration when attending a school. That’s why I mentioned it. :P</p>
<p>Carneige is a lot better than Vassar…</p>
<p>Living here, I would honestly not pay the amount they charge. I’d pay 25k…that’s about it. I honestly don’t believe it’s that good of a school.
Unless you want to take a stroll at night and get jumped haha!</p>
<p>What makes Carnegie Better than Vassar? According to statistics Vassar wins in almost every way:</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Vassar accepts 24% of applicants, Carnegie accepts 33%</p></li>
<li><p>Student to Faculty ratio. Vassar is 8:1, Carnegie is 11.7:1</p></li>
<li><p>Average SAT scores: Vassar is 1970-2210, Carnegie is 1930-2200</p></li>
<li><p>Average percent of need met. Vassar=100% Carnegie=82%</p></li>
<li><p>Total Cost of Attendance. Vassar= $55,135 Carnegie= $54,922</p></li>
<li><p>Endowment per student. Vassar= $282,828 Carnegie= $74,294</p></li>
</ol>
<p>While I agree that fit is most important, you can not objectively say that Carnegie Mellon is better than Vassar. You should get much more financial aid from Vassar and the price is less than a $500 difference between the two. And as for safety, have you ever been to Pittsburgh at night?!?!?!?! I’m sorry but your points don’t really have any factual backing and I feel that the other readers on this board should know that this is only your opinion (Which I clearly disagree with).</p>
<p>Sure it’s just my opinion…based off facts?</p>
<p>You stated “Carneige is a lot better than Vassar…” as if it was a fact, which it certainly is not. And the rate of violent crime in Pittsburgh is 2.61 times the national average.</p>
<p>This isn’t even about CM.
But who in their right mind goes to a liberal arts school to be an engineering major?</p>
<p>CM > vassar</p>
<p>All day, every day.
this isn’t about CM, so I don’t even know why you’re talking about it.</p>
<p>You say twice that “This isn’t even about CM.” and then you once again state that cm is better than Vassar, with no reason why. Now you mention engineering, which is not even remotely relevant, at all. The pointlessness of this thread continues!</p>
<p>This isn’t about CM.
I’m gonna talk about CM.
This isn’t about CM.</p>
<p>Ok, good. I’m glad to hear that we are past that. So do you have any comments on the academics or other factors that would make Vassar not worth the high price of tuition that you didn’t mention? I really am interested to hear, even if I may have come off as slightly rude in the earlier posts. I am planning to attend but any more helpful info you could provide would be excellent :)</p>
<p>Haha, no. You were rude, but I always like a ‘witty’ kid defending what makes him feel prestegious…
Kindest intention of course. ;)</p>
<p>What’s your major? I’ve heard their chem program is nothing to brag about.</p>
<p>a few things
- “this is strictly factual” let me proceed to shove my opinions in your face.
- you are free to feel whatever you want, just dont state them as fact.
- 1337 in the username. <em>sigh</em> why am i talking to a 15 year old who found the internet? </p>
<p>although as a sidenote, debt is the absolute worst possible thing to have as a graduate and i am a big supporter of what you are trying to say. just not the way you said it, your friend just comes off as bitter for some reason…i dont see why she would be outraged…you guys need to chill :p</p>
<p>Thank You joshsnow, I completely agree with you on every point, especially the point regarding debt as my parents won’t be funding any of my education. I have to take out all the student loans by myself which is why I looked at schools that offer some of the best financial aid packages, such as Vassar.</p>
<p>Most of the things I said were factual. Not opinions. You haven’t done your research enough.</p>
<p>Crime rate = go look up stats
Massacre = go look it up
Ghetto = when you get there, take a stroll to the right. If you jog, you could get there in 2 mins.
Serial killer = go look up that</p>
<p>Dorms was the only opinionated thing I stated in my first post. But you can see for yourselves. And the professor.</p>
<p>Facts can be supported by evidence. So please tell me, what haven’t I admitted to that can’t be supported by evidence.</p>
<p>Pinkluver, I think you are getting confused over what the meaning of fact is… What you are doing is not forming facts on evidence; evidence are the facts, therefore you are forming an opinion based on the facts not facts based on evidence. Like what conners said, you basically contradicted yourself. And I would also like to say that Vassar is a liberal arts school. You really don’t have your college facts right if you are comparing CMU which is a UNIVERSITY with Vassar College which is a LIBERAL ARTS SCHOOL. Two of them come from totally different environments by giving individuals different paths in the variety of education provided for them. Just because you go to a school with a better engineering atmosphere does NOT mean you’ll come out as a better engineer-- it ultimately it falls down to how YOU utilize the information. Vassar really isn’t known for sciences, but the professors try their best to input you into the environment that many other schools provide-- thats what many choose vassar and LAC over Universities, the school actually cares about you and will go so far for you. Have you even heard of the ‘Vassar-Dartmouth Dual Degree Program in Engineering’? It allows students to excel in engineering opportunities by substituting the school’s lack of classes with other LAC like Dartmouth. </p>
<p>Yeah there are facts and evidence but its just the facts, not the future. NYC has high crime rates but I’ve never been mugged or jumped-- so how can your evidence back up the future? IT CANT. If you really love the facts so much, then why don’t you research more and figure out that the internet and personal experiences sometimes does not project the reality. </p>
<p>I’ll be attending Vassar as the class of 2015 this fall. IN MY EXPERIENCE, WHETHER WHAT PINKLUVER SAID WAS TRUE OR NOT I LOVE VASSAR AS IT IS. Vassar met 100% of my needs(only need to pay 1K a year), has a great chemistry and lab department, awesome professor/student relationships which CMU can’t always provide for(some profs live with the students in the dorm and the president of the school (“Cappy”) lives on the campus), beautiful campus (Its very similar to Brown’s campus), and internship opportunities in NYC. Don’t let what pinkluver get to your head because what she said is ONLY AN OPINION NOT THE FACT.</p>
<p>“I am outraged at their tuition rates, they are simply just NOT worth it.”</p>
<p>“I lived in the dorms. They were nothing to brag about, not worth 43k a year that’s for sure”</p>
<p>“This is strictly factual, and you don’t have to listen.”</p>
<p>“Carneige is a lot better than Vassar…”</p>
<p>“This isn’t even about CM.”</p>
<p>“CM > vassar All day, every day. this isn’t about CM, so I don’t even know why you’re talking about it.”</p>
<p>“I’ve heard their chem program is nothing to brag about.” <–Clearly based off of facts, no?</p>
<p>"You haven’t done your research enough.</p>
<p>Crime rate = go look up stats
Massacre = go look it up
Ghetto = when you get there, take a stroll to the right. If you jog, you could get there in 2 mins.
Serial killer = go look up that" <–Sounds like you haven’t actually done any research, as you didn’t supply any facts in that post, or even links to find the facts.</p>
<p>“Most of the things I said were factual. Not opinions.”</p>
<p>This is just an awesome assortment of statements that you make where you make your hypocrisy clear. “Kindest intention of course. ;)” </p>
<p>All quotes are provided by the most “1337” poster on the board so no need to argue lol</p>
<p>So, yeah, I’ve lived in Poughkeepsie my whole life, and am a member of the class of 2015, so I’ll give my input: Shut up. The “Ghetto” you speak of is hardly crime-ridden, and rare is it that there are any actual murders or somesuch that occur. Kendall Francois killed a bunch of prostitutes. Not Vassar students. And that was 12 years ago. The deer-culling was NOT done because the deer were eating their food. The overwhelming population of deer were causing car accidents at a pretty high frequency. Idiot. The rest of your post makes little sense. Do you by any chance attend Arlington High?</p>
<p>Sweet, a Vassar class of 2015 student from the area! Since pinkluver1337 has supplied nothing but negative rants about Vassar and the surrounding area, what are some of the places that I could bring my family to eat before my prospective student overnight?</p>