<p>Good point, Ilovepoker.</p>
<p>Beautifully said Ilovepoker. I agree 100%.</p>
<p>I take your opinion to heart. Thanks for commenting :)</p>
<p>luck plays a major part in it. you could get a test with weird words a test with normal words. the sat sucks when that factor jumps in.</p>
<p>I don't buy the whole "tests well" thing. I was freaking out with the pressure on my November Writing test and I do that alot, especially at school. Nevertheless, I get good grades. There's no accounting for knowing your ****.</p>
<p>Ilovepoker's right. If the test was translated to my native language, I could easily get 1500 +.</p>
<p>Anyone competing for full scholarships ? </p>
<p>Anyone knows any full scholarships for international students ?</p>
<p>im normal... 1350 sat after lots of prep =/ but i also did get 0prep in highschool b/c my school is crap... i didnt even know what profound meant before i started doing prep as a sophomore lol</p>
<p>uva james, by tone of money, u mean like in the millions to donate to universities, i doubt harvard'll take you if you give then 50 grand or even 200 grand. Unless you build them a library or something, you'll never get in with bad stats. (did you know Widener was donated by one of the students parents? that's what a plaque in the library says) anyway, <1200 doesn't suck that much does it? My friend got an A at harvard and got 1140 on his SAT and i only have 1190(before) and i got numerous awards. I think a low score means i'm not good at taking test (or maybe i am just stupid, who knows)</p>
<p>Yep, those natural genuises...don't ya hate 'em? lol</p>
<p>My friend took the SAT without ever looking at anything remotely related to it beforehand and got a 1560. There are...a ton of people like that at my school...</p>
<p>this thread is soo lame no offense...but it always comes back to the students who get 1400+..even this thread..for some reason..its become about 1560s and 1600s etc..i guess whats normal on this site is a bunch of 1500s..</p>
<p>I haven't taken mine yet, but i'm hoping for a 1300. That's it. I suck at math. That's all there is to it.</p>
<p>Wow, some of the people on this site need to stop being so paranoid...</p>
<p>Right now I have an unofficial 1500 composite, but 1430 in one sitting.</p>
<p>Before you shoot me though, I'm Asian, which means that I'm most certainly below "normal."</p>
<p>Damn.</p>
<p>camus you should be proud of yourself 1250 is really good despite what some people say. people should realize that the score they got on a standarized test don't determine their real intelligence furthermore even if you do go to harvard or princeton it doesn't mean that you are better than those who got 1100 and went to unknown schools. basically college and highschool, whatever others might say, don't determine your life unless you let them</p>
<p>Camus sucks. The author, not the person using him as their user name.</p>
<p>The thing about the SAT is, it can do WORLDS for your self-confidence. When I was stuck at 1270 I thought that everybody was smarter than me and I acted very timid in academic discussions and among people whom I deemed to be better than me because they had a higher score. Now that my score has gone up over 100 points I am much more confident in my abilities and no longer view myself as being inferior to others in my classes. Weird, huh?</p>
<p>I love poker too.</p>
<p>You play a lot?</p>
<p>As someone who got a 1570 on the SAT on my first official test and 800's on Math IIC, Physics, and Writing on my second test day, I can honestly say that test scores really aren't any indication of anything but how well you can take standardized tests.</p>
<p>I'm a test taker. I'm such a nerd, I actually liked taking them (for a while). I'm never focused, but when taking the tests I'm focused as a laser beam, and rather becoming unconfident, I gain confidence that helps me on the tests.</p>
<p>I know some very intelligent people who completely freak out- they can't focus, they feel like they want to vomit, and they ultimately fail the test. Obviously, that's gonna affect their SAT scores.</p>
<p>Case point- my mom scored an 800 on her SAT - combined. I've scored nearly twice as much. My mother is a very intelligent lady. The SAT is an IQ Test? My ass. If it was, shouldn't I get something closer than her test? The reason she did so poorly was that she was like the girl from Glass Menagerie- extremely shy and nervous.</p>
<p>KiwiFrt2787, thank you so much for your comments. That was the type of discussion I wanted to start when creating this thread. Tenacious J, Camus is my favorite author. I've read all his books in English and in French. You have bad taste. :)</p>
<p>KiwiFrt2787, I understand what you're trying to do, but I'm not sure you're right at all. First, what constitutes a "good" score depends on what you want do with it and where you want to go to college. If you're looking to get into a really big name school like an Ivy or Stanford of something like that, a 1250 isn't good. Let's not kid ourselves. If, on the other hand, you care more about getting a good education no matter where you go, it is a good score. Tons of state schools that get no attention on this site will offer you the same great education you'd get at Harvard. But, once again, there's still something to be said for getting into and attending Harvard. </p>
<p>Second, the SAT test is much more of an intelligence test than people are willing to admit. It certainly originated from intelligence test and it focuses much more on intelligence-type skills than the SAT IIs do, which focus on retention skills and the substance of what you learned. If the SAT didn't work this way, it wouldn't be the good predictor that it is for how well students will do in college. Lets remember that one half of all people in a given population are below the median intelligence for that population. This is true if your population is Mensa or the entire high school graduating class of 2005.</p>
<p>Lastly, you're right that colllege and high school don't <em>have</em> to determine your life afterwards, but they certainly can. Anyone who believes they have just as good chances of getting jobs without a college degree as those who do have one are just deluding themselves. </p>
<p>Actually, I'll retract what I said above, KiwiFrt2787 has the right general idea. If you get into a four-year university (I'd generally judge it by whether they offer doctorates), you can really go anywhere, especially if you want to go to graduate school. All you have to do is go to Caltech's graduate physics site and look at the doctoral sudents and what universities they came from. There are lots of Harvards and Yales, but there are also a good number of perfectly normal schools like SUNY (for you New Yorkers out there) and other. Anyone who doubts the selectivity of Caltech's physics doctoral program needs a serious kick in the a$$.</p>